[WhoMe]

A long time ago, otter wraps were part of gourd dance attire for those who could attain them. In almost every old photograph, the dancers are wearing them around their braids.

Do many people wear them today? Why or why not?

[Zotigh]

Originally Posted by WhoMe

A long time ago, otter wraps were part of gourd dance attire for those who could attain them. In almost every old photograph, the dancers are wearing them around their braids.

Do many people wear them today? Why or why not?

Some of us don't have nuttin' to wrap in otter. :D

[WhoMe]

Originally Posted by Zotigh

Some of us don't have nuttin' to wrap in otter. :D

*LOL !!! Good one Z!

One of my best friends that works with me is a trapper and always has otter on hand. I know how to cut and prepare tanned otters for northern women's braids.

I wonder if the cut is different in any way for southern plains attire???

[Zotigh]

Speaking of otters....where did the otter turban originate?

[WhoMe]

Originally Posted by Zotigh

Speaking of otters....where did the otter turban originate?

Z,

Good question. The otter cap is traditionally worn by tribes as far north as Hudson Bay, Canada (and maybe even beyond), all the way down to Texas. I'm sure there is not one consistent story about its origin and use. I'm sure each tribe has or had their own version.

I do know with some prairie tribes, the otter cap was equally prestigious to the wearer as the warbonnet was to many plains tribes.

[Host-Drum]

I know that the Gyat-thy-dau, Headsman were the only ones permitted to wear these otterwraps and/or turbans. Or the oldest son of the Chiefs family, Au-day-tahlee. The Otter itself is considered Dau-dau! if you know what i mean....thats all i have to say. Us Kgoy-goo have to watch what we say pertaining to this.

Pretty soon every Tom, Dick and Harry will be using it or proclaim they know its use because they read it on the Powwows.com.

Just like every other tribe proclaiming the origins of OUR DANCE, WHICH WE DID NOT STEAL FROM ANY OTHER TRIBE, PERIOD!!!!!!

[legalstraight]

I have a solution for those with nothing to wrap, patent pending but you only need one package of superglue, 4 feet of rope and your wraps......

As for Turbans in Texas, who besides Kickapoo? They originally come from the Great Lakes Area. From what I see the turbans start getting sparse once you get south of Tulsa.

[WhoMe]

Originally Posted by Host-Drum

I know that the Gyat-thy-dau, Headsman were the only ones permitted to wear these otterwraps and/or turbans. Or the oldest son of the Chiefs family, Au-day-tahlee. The Otter itself is considered Dau-dau! if you know what i mean....thats all i have to say. Us Kgoy-goo have to watch what we say pertaining to this.

Pretty soon every Tom, Dick and Harry will be using it or proclaim they know its use because they read it on the Powwows.com.

Just like every other tribe proclaiming the origins of OUR DANCE, WHICH WE DID NOT STEAL FROM ANY OTHER TRIBE, PERIOD!!!!!!

Host,

Haw. DayOhnday....I appreciate you telling it like it is.

I was recently looking at a picture of the men who helped revive the Kiowa Thia-pay-gaw. Each was dressed in their finest Kgoygoo clothing complete with otter tail braid wraps and roaches. To me they made me proud.

Each of these men were well respected. I wonder why none of them wore an otter cap?

[WhoMe]

Originally Posted by legalstraight

As for Turbans in Texas, who besides Kickapoo? They originally come from the Great Lakes Area. From what I see the turbans start getting sparse once you get south of Tulsa.

legal,

Kiowa, Comanche and Wichita all considered what is now the state of Texas, their eminent domain. The Wichita and their affiliated tribes were original inhabitants.

All three tribes wore otter caps.



It is said, the Tonkawa would even leave their otter caps on them ... while they cooked them!

BAY-GAAHHHHHH!!!! *L


j/k

[Zotigh]

Originally Posted by WhoMe

legal,

Kiowa, Comanche and Wichita all considered what is now the state of Texas, their eminent domain. The Wichita and their affiliated tribes were original inhabitants.

All three tribes wore otter caps.



It is said, the Tonkawa would even leave their otter caps on them ... while they cooked them!

BAY-GAHHHHHH!!!! *L


j/k

What wine do you serve with Kiowa?

[WhoMe]

Originally Posted by Zotigh

What wine do you serve with Kiowa?

Haw-nay wine, pahbi....

PeetTon'e thongya!!!

NaaNaaNaanaaaaa.....

[Zotigh]

Originally Posted by WhoMe

Haw-nay wine, pahbi....

PeetTon'e thongya!!!

NaaNaaNaanaaaaa.....

oh! So, we're like pizza or Mexican food! :D

hehe

Yeah...beer would go more better.


You nut. :)