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Old 10-26-2007, 11:50 AM   #81
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"I'm just trying to picture how ticked off my older brother (full blood - 4/4) would be to see himself labeled a White Native American. He lives in town and only hangs out with white people (besides family) and doesn't fit in any of the circles of language, political or religion."

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There seem to be so many that use the term wannabe. Your ancestors came from people who have a language and in that language describe themselves and everyone else. Is the term 'wannabe' included in that language?

I agree with some of those posting here in that you should learn more about where you come from, who you come from and their concepts of identity rather than relying too heavily on non-native descriptions.
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I don't want to respond to the responses here because i would just be repeating everything I just said :) I think the analogy is very fitting, makes sense, and i think its accurate.. BUT

I also think the analogy will make people mad. Different people have different opinions...and thats fine.

I think the purpose of the topic was to explain culture in general to storyteller, and i think thats been accomplished. sooooo if anybody wants to "debate" or whatever...feel free to PM me :)
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:47 PM   #84
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People who are "full-blood" anything don't get it! I'm mixed and proud, I'm proud of all my relations! My family comes from around the world and that makes me strong. I don't need some full-blood giving me personal validation or telling where I come from. I've heard it all before too from both sides "What are you?" I just say I'm a human being! Why do you think my name is forgotten1z it's because they would like to forget about us. My advice to you is hang with the mixed-bloods. They are more accepting than the full-bloods will ever be. Sorry to offend any open-minded full-bloods but I have obviously never met one. I am a happy Hapa!
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forgotten - So........ you have pre-determined opinion of me? Yep, I'm getting used of it here. We are not very well accepted on-line.
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Ki...you shouldn't be a full-blood!lol
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Hi begs, wyo, bad, Kiwehnzii and any one else I forgot.

forgotten1z I'm sorry that you feel that way, I have not yet to any full blooded or mixed that has never accepted me, for me. I talk to everyone & if they don't like me well who cares.
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Here we go again...What in the hell do you know 'quite well'? And where did you learn what 'tribal warfare' entailed?

****en foreigners.
Jd don't knock foreigners before you try them j/k
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That's my point, I really don't care what anyone thinks of me or my mixed family but what I have found to be true is that the only one's who really get it are the mixed ones. No offense, that's just how it is. I feel for this guy can't you just say hey to him! Does anybody else get this or is it too foreign????
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Plenty of people just said Hey to him... it's not was he was asking for. He asked if he was a wannabe by his description and I think for the most part people were honest with their opinions and answers and relatively nice about it as well. Your post is a great example of my second reply about folks turning this into a mixed blood vrs. full blood issue which it is not.
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I'm not turning this into anything, don't lay that on me. What I am saying is just my opinion and personal experience. It's not about full-bloods vs. mixed-bloods it's about acceptance, you're right, many replies were positive I read most before I responded. This is just a debate only he knows for sure what he is actually asking, right????
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yeah don't get into the vs stuff cuz..it could be the other way around too..just b/c you're a full blood doesn't mean that you are excluded..from whatever they dump on us..and if you do know where u come from..then why ask for validation from someone else..?
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Full bloods are always getting bashed. Someone always has a gripe about what someone said to them so they lump us all in the same group together.

I can't stand it when I hear the lines that almost always come with these issues...... "Theres no such thing as a full blood"

and the other one... "I know some whites that act more NDN than the full bloods"
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Full bloods are always getting bashed. Someone always has a gripe about what someone said to them so they lump us all in the same group together.

I can't stand it when I hear the lines that almost always come with these issues...... "Theres no such thing as a full blood"

and the other one... "I know some whites that act more NDN than the full bloods"
Man I hate that too, and I'm probably guilty of saying one or the other a long time ago before I "grew up".

I've had my share of butthole fullbloods who want to treat me less for being half .. but that's usuallly only online and not in person.

You know what gets me is these folks who have been calling themselves mixed bloods because just about anyone on this continent and the next can call themselves that for being either racially mixed or nationality mixed. I find it misleading. And lately with people I've seen using it on other boards... it's like mixed blood is code for non status or very little/unknown ancestry.
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Man I hate that too, and I'm probably guilty of saying one or the other a long time ago before I "grew up".

I've had my share of butthole fullbloods who want to treat me less for being half .. but that's usuallly only online and not in person.

You know what gets me is these folks who have been calling themselves mixed bloods because just about anyone on this continent and the next can call themselves that for being either racially mixed or nationality mixed. I find it misleading. And lately with people I've seen using it on other boards... it's like mixed blood is code for non status or very little/unknown ancestry.
hi Black bear this is instering to hear from you ,it causes me to pause in how i difined my self ,i have a lot of respect for you and belive your heart in most matters.but why would it bother you ,is it becouse someone cliaming somthing that thay have no right to claim or a true mix blood is only half of two diftent tribes.
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Man I hate that too, and I'm probably guilty of saying one or the other a long time ago before I "grew up".

I've had my share of butthole fullbloods who want to treat me less for being half .. but that's usuallly only online and not in person.

You know what gets me is these folks who have been calling themselves mixed bloods because just about anyone on this continent and the next can call themselves that for being either racially mixed or nationality mixed. I find it misleading. And lately with people I've seen using it on other boards... it's like mixed blood is code for non status or very little/unknown ancestry.
Mixed blood is more complex than that, I think. My fathers fam comes from Three Rivers, Quebec and we have been mixed for at least 5 generations (no"full-bloods" of any kind that I know of). It's very common for the region a lot of contact there between peoples. Many times mixed just marry mixed it's less complicated. I have talked to others like myself (some of them Metis) who are not sure where their relatives are originally from but know where they ended up. French may be the language and Catholicism the religion but many of the recipes, beadwork styles and doll-making are the same.
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