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Old 03-29-2004, 05:52 PM   #1
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Black Leggings / Black Feet Society?

I know that there is a Black Leggings Society, but what is the Black Feet Society?

I saw a video of what I thought was Black Leggins but the MC said Black Feet Society a few times.

There were four men in outfit dancing behind 4 eagle staffs. At a point in the song they would grab the staff and dance with it. It was a bouncing step like the gourd dance and the songs were very gourd dance-ish.

There were mainly women dancing in the same style around the edge of the arbor, the four men were the only men i saw there.

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There are still a number of men's societies up in Browning but they obviously don't serve the same purpose they used to. Most societies danced their own dances every August during Sundance. What you describe of the women dancing is similar to a medicine bundle ceremonial dance but the men with eagle staff's may be a contemporary addition. The name isn't familiar at all.
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Old 03-29-2004, 06:27 PM   #3
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My brother now tells me there is an Apache Society, strangely called the Apache Blackfeet Society that dance with eagle staff's.
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I know that there is a Black Leggings Society, but what is the Black Feet Society?

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The Black Leggings Society you are referring to is a Kiowa Warrior Society. The Black Feet Society that you described is a Plains Apache dance society. There are two Black Feet Societies down in Oklahoma.

Neither one of them has anything to do with the Blackfeet tribes OR OutKast. (as in black FEET)

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Whome-thanks. It was in El Reno OKLA. And was definitely southern. Southern singing all the way.
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The Kiowa Tribe has had an elaborate warrior organization since before any recorded history of the tribe. The structure of the overall organization and the songs, dances, dress and ceremonies of each of the elements were well established and carried on when first discovered by white explorers over 200 years ago. Members must be Kiowa and must have served in one of the armed services of the United States. The organization, in its many years of existence, has remained all Kiowa.

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are you talking about kiowa warrior societies or something??
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ON BEING KIOWA
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I grew up in southwestern Oklahoma near the Wichita Mountain range. Because Kiowa was spoken in the home I learned the sound of Kiowa words early on. It was therefore the music of spoken Kiowa that my ears were attuned to first and the language which I remember most when a child. My grandfather was an important figure among his Kiowa people. He was not a wealthy man in the way we are accustomed to thinking of men of material means. What he was in possession of was the good idea he had of himself and the world about. By this, I mean that my grandfather took account for his actions in the way that a responsible person must to earn the respect of others.

One of my earliest recollections is the sound of people talking and laughing. They have come to the house to visit and pay their respects. Another time, an old man comes to our house. He is so concentrated in years that it is hard to imagine how those frail bones can hold him together. When I am first introduced to him he takes ahold of my shoulders in his two hands and looks straight into my eyes, unblinking, and I know I am in the presence of someone who has seen deeply into life. Though I am afraid at first, in a little while I am at ease and relaxed. As I am standing there in his strong grasp, slowly he lets his hands wander down my arms and across. With the other hand he reaches and touches my face, and it is then that I suddenly realize that he is blind and that it is through his hands that he sees me. And yet, it is his eyes that are the most striking feature about him. I now realize how much native intelligence was concentrated in his sense of touch and awareness. Here was a person, I often think, who occupied a house whose windows are shuttered forever from looking out and yet he saw beyond.

His name is Daugomah and he is my grandfather's oldest brother.

Another early memory I have is that of my mother. It is during the war and we are living in the same house with my grandparents. It is springtime or thereabouts. Someone has arrived and there is much confused excitement in the house. My mother rushes about thrilled as a young girl but at the same time weeping and I do not know why. Now, off to one side there appears a young man. He is tall and looking down at me. I size him up.

Dressed up in strange clothes, he has a hat on his head and all the while he is looking down at me he is grinning with that one gold tooth flashing like the headlight of a car. I turn to my mother and ask her, "Who is that soldier boy?"

He is my father and at first I am afraid of him but after a while I begin to get used to this intruder who seems all the time to be celebrated everywhere we go. There is a big powwow in his honor and many people come to pay their respects to this warrior returned from overseas. Dashing in his handsome uniform, he is at the head of the procession, and dancing. In his hands a pole with the American flag suspended from the end extends outward. As he passes over the dance ground people rush up and toss blankets onto the ground ahead of the procession. It is a tumultuous gathering with much singing, joyous shouting and dancing. A Kiowa warrior has come home safely and is victorious!

My father revived the Blackleggings Warriors Society in 1957. The first such celebration was held at the Carnegie park on November 11, 1959. It was a huge encampment. Kiowa veterans of both World Wars and the Korean Conflict were invited. It was an important occasion for the veterans and their families. The weather held but then it began to drizzle and the air to be cold. That first time only three men danced. They were my father and his two brothers, Dixon and George. Years later, when membership grew, the Blackleggings Warrior Society Ceremony, as it came to be called, was moved to Anadarko, Oklahoma.

Here, every autumn now the blackleggings warriors come and recall heroic deeds of old and recent military service to their country, and it is done in song and dance. Although many of the blackleggings songs are new, there are also those which are very old. The hypnotic chant of the song is haunting with the firm, straightforward beat of the drum. At their best, they tell of the victorious warrior feat, but are in the main reminders of a safe homecoming of the young man to his loved ones and family.

Right now, as I am writing these words, I am reminded of the drums and the singing. In my mind's eyes I see the dancers come to the center of the dance circle. Old and young alike, they thrill to the beat of the drumming and the chant of the song. In the July sun there is a pervasion of color to dazzle the eyes. A ripple of silver armbands suddenly catches on a beam of sunlight and in an instant you think that you will be blinded by it, so intense is the blaze.

Somewhere a campfire is burning low. A wisp of smoke trails out and across to where the people are seated, and beyond. I am in my dance regalia and about to enter the circle, when I happen to look up and see my grandfather standing there. His is a strikingly handsome figure of a man in his outfit, looking straight ahead, unblinking and dancing, and I feel as if my heart would burst with pride. Later, when he walks out to the middle and speaks to the people, his words come slow, haltingly almost, yet clear like they do when he has something important and meaningful to say. I am on the edge of my seat, straining to hear every syllable uttered, each word, every pause. It is not a long talk. This time it is not so much that he is speaking to his people as it is for them, in their behalf, in their honor as it were; as it should be, in the Kiowa way.

(October, 1997, Norman, Oklahoma)
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The Kiowa Tribe has had an elaborate warrior organization since before any recorded history of the tribe. The structure of the overall organization and the songs, dances, dress and ceremonies of each of the elements were well established and carried on when first discovered by white explorers over 200 years ago. Members must be Kiowa and must have served in one of the armed services of the United States. The organization, in its many years of existence, has remained all Kiowa.
AND THEIR LITTLE BLACK PANTYHOSE ARE CUTE TOO
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