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Old 02-19-2013, 11:59 AM   #21
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Naahh Zeke"s from the other side of the state !
your wrong wardancer it's miami,ok buddy as a matter of fact more non cards know of me than u can think and maybe 1 fraud who wish the never rip off a fellow native who was a non card
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lol i no fraud . i just don't use my title much . can say this the non cards sure do like me and when the bean dip fly's do i hear it
No, not YOU...The Ethiopian Shaman you named in your first post.

I have a list going too...BIG LIST...

Everybody in China that makes Dreamcatchers is on my list....
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No, not YOU...The Ethiopian Shaman you named in your first post.

I have a list going too...BIG LIST...

Everybody in China that makes Dreamcatchers is on my list....
good. cause a real dream catcher is made by real native any way but if the stamped china than no real fraud is being commited unless person selling is saying the not than that is fraud by salesmen . i my self prefer the real deal my self and if i can't find it i make it my self
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sometimes I make chinese dreamcatchers ! Then I sell them to ethiopian shamen !

Does that make me a bad person ?
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No, not YOU...The Ethiopian Shaman you named in your first post.

I have a list going too...BIG LIST...

Everybody in China that makes Dreamcatchers is on my list....
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Hey , I heard about this 1 guy from up around Hannibal , Mo.......claimed to be a chief and everything !But he's moving to Oklahoma to take over the Tribes there in Miami !

well , no proof but that's what I heard........
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Were you adopted by walmart tribe?
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Well , he thinks you are !
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your wrong wardancer it's miami,ok buddy as a matter of fact more non cards know of me than u can think and maybe 1 fraud who wish the never rip off a fellow native who was a non card
No I'm right , Zeke is from the other side of the state ! Did not mention you at all. And I'm not your buddy.
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The only exploitation I've witnessed is you claiming Nativeness for respectability.

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lol i no fraud . i just don't use my title much . can say this the non cards sure do like me and when the bean dip fly's do i hear it
Let me see if I have this right. You are not enrolled in any tribe, yet you use the title of chief sometimes when referring to yourself. Please explain to me how in thunder that isn't fraud. Representing yourself as a chief when you aren't is nothing but fraud
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No, not YOU...The Ethiopian Shaman you named in your first post.
I have a list going too...BIG LIST...
Everybody in China that makes Dreamcatchers is on my list....
I can tell you for a fact, the chinese guys making dreamcatchers are slaves, literally. Ppl making iPads in China killing themsleves, you can be sure that ppl making dreamcatchers are just survivor slaves. China is a very money driven culture. These guys will make anything for money to survive. Don't let where the slavery happens fool you. Maybe a farm slave tugs at your heart more & fits the branded slave imagery better, and true the cruelty of the white slave owner is of the highest caliber of evils. But, it's just the way slavers roll these days. They make more money with the factory than with the plantation.

They just fooling the public to think the slaves are "making a living", when in reality, they end up on a sick bed with no money, and in fact further indebting their slave children into a family lineage of subjugation. The best hope for a slave is to be an "in-house" slave. The greatest hope is that one day maybe their children will be the property of a corporation, govt, or military. And if they become slavers themselves one remarkable day, then well, that's called success in money & power mongering.

Ppl with only the survival instinct in their possession are not the culprits, in my opinion. I don't think its ppl who "make" dreamcatchers. It's the slaver factory owner, the slaver buyer who puts the order in, and the slaver market that demands more --that don't "make" a thing or lift a finger running the operations. Who buys the dreamcatchers and demand them to be made using slave labor? Its the benefits of being a slaver that rocks our world. Bottom line, it's the greed sl*ts, whoring for power & the almighty paper bill to blame. And to add, anyone that envies and wants power by this way contribute to this system of exploitation. Exploiting ppl to exploit more ppl.

The best way to make that blacklist worth anything is to crumble the system, and offer a way towards wealth in life without currency, and power in life through unity/solidarity --to hold greed accountable or even punishable. Being religious used to provide this way. Being a warrior (not soldier, but perhaps can become a warrior again) used to provide this way. But today, we live in the market/merchant-banker/political system. A good blacklist, aside from fakes, should include a thorough list of bankers that fund these exploiter ideas and slavers that make most of us survive by partaking in the exploitation. Other slaves just don't have the choice to "make" or "not make."

Otherwise, if we're not ready to do that, then gain more money and power than the slaver you despise and become a better slaver, so that in the end that black list contains a bunch of fakes and one final name -- your name. Re-write the slave owner's manual by sacrifice. Sacrifice your wealth in money and power and deliver it to your slaves, so that they will remember you, the better way, and follow with unity in it.

In China, this kind of talk might be called taoist. And the way called the tao. Like a great warrior who's greatest feat is to teach his students how to be a greater warrior than him. A path found in contradiction. A way done for oneself but guiding to others. The art of war so that you may deliver it to your ppl, deliver it to the future. If only I could say the same for my self, I might feel a little better when I meet the future. Power & wealth in self rather than things, a reoccurring dream.
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A person that calls himself Chief of the Non-carded is their representative and also then resonsible for the actions of his peoples.

Then is the next step to claim they are in fact a Tribe of Non-Carded?
Or are they Non-Carded until they can prove they can be carded and thus drop out of this non-carded "Tribe" for you can't be Dual Enrolled!

Another Question is the Chief of the Non-carded willing to give up that role when he in fact becomes Carded for in that case he would be a Citizen and member of that Tribe. For he is now carded and that Chief would not be happy with another Chief in the tribe for there can only be one!

So what happens to the Non-Carded without a Chief do they Elect another??
Is there a governing document that addresses this issue??

But then if they have governing documents then they are not a Recognized tribe
So they are a Heritage Group then not a tribe

Do they have 501c status

Or is this just

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I can tell you for a fact, the chinese guys making dreamcatchers are slaves, literally.

In China, this kind of talk might be called taoist. And the way called the tao. Like a great warrior who's greatest feat is to teach his students how to be a greater warrior than him. A path found in contradiction. A way done for oneself but guiding to others. The art of war so that you may deliver it to your ppl, deliver it to the future.

If only I could say the same for my self, I might feel a little better when I meet the future. Power & wealth in self rather than things, a reoccurring dream.
I'm no expert on taoism, but my eyes have seen Chinese people all over the world, and they are hard workers whereever you find them.

The U.S. was soooooo afraid of communist China....now we better be afraid of how they will run Capitalism like a nuclear bulldozer and wipe out EVERYBODY...

We will wish that they had stayed communist and stayed behind their Great Wall.

One thing we can do is sell them cigarettes, they like to smoke the terbacky.
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And slavery in modern China? An old school Chinese insult used to be calling a person "robber baron" referring to greed.

Now we see consumerism, no accountability...to cultures or workers rights...selling and selling-out

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