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Old 03-10-2012, 06:10 PM   #21
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That's a well thought out opinion. Maybe he's dressed like this just for one scene...we'll see.

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Gawt Dang - that pic of Johnny looks a little out there to say the least Opinion based soley on the one pic, not on acting or the movie since I haven't seen it yet

Does anybody know - was Tonto a real or based on a real person? And isn't he supposed to be Apache? If so I wonder what the Apache people are thinking, never know it could accurate LOL

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Gawt Dang - that pic of Johnny looks a little out there to say the least Opinion based soley on the one pic, not on acting or the movie since I haven't seen it yet

Does anybody know - was Tonto a real or based on a real person? And isn't he supposed to be Apache? If so I wonder what the Apache people are thinking, never know it could accurate LOL

Can't believe I am home on the computer, I am too sick to do anything else, I wanna be well and go out tonight LOL
I guess that is what I'm asking all the offended people who have posted their opinion on here.

What historical significance did Tonto have to NDNs that it would offend you to see Johnny Drop play Tonto in a movie?
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I really think you can't tell what the movie is like by one picture. I'll reserve my opinion until I see it.

Johnny Depp is a pretty good actor. The Tonto role commanding a big name, pricey actor like Depp means quite a bit. I read that Depp actually gets into his character for months on end and researches it in depth. I think he will care deeply about how he portrays his character.

Then I think, what? No Indian was available for the part? but in reality, the people who make decisions care only about the bottom line, but Depp cares deeply about his reputation (and I've chosen to forgive him for Willy Wonka). Now that they have a big name like Depp to play Tonto, if his acting is terrible and he's unbelievable or ridiculous, then the box office will show it. It's all about the bottom line. Investors want to recover what it costs to get big names for movies. They are in it for the money. To them--to quote Mr. Trump, "It's not personal, it's business."

All that said, I will be interested to see the movie because I think that Depp will research his character well...I'll reserve judgment until I see his performance, which I assume isn't the center role but a supporting one. I don't think you can tell much from one picture.

Just my opinion.
I agree with you on waiting to pass judgement on the movie. I do find it kinda odd that they didnt choose a native actor considering that there are quite a few good ones. I suppose business is business. But a picture is worth 1000 words and that picture makes him look like a clown.
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I guess that is what I'm asking all the offended people who have posted their opinion on here.

What historical significance did Tonto have to NDNs that it would offend you to see Johnny Drop play Tonto in a movie?
Yeah well that is the same argument that the Cleveland Indians use "hey its not a real Indian whats the big deal".
Big Nose Big Teeth Braids bent feather like he fell down alot (Drunkard)

As for Johnny Depp saying that he is using Capt Jack Sparrow as his inspiration for playing Tonto, But correct me if I am wrong but didn't Jack Sparrow stagger around alot like he was DRUNK
LOL

But yeah your right whats the big Deal Tonto was a Made up Injun and yes the character that Jay Silverheels played on TV back in the 50's was sorta based on an Apache or actually a Generic Southwest Indian with Buckskins and a leather strap tied around his head.

Funny that Documentary Reel Injun just keeps playing over and over in my mind
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I think the raven on his head is a trained raven, and it is just perching on his head, not dead and stuffed. Note, there is something white on Depp's face. Obviously, the raven makes a habit of perching on his head.
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ah, Disney ... THAT explains it!

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The photo shows Depp as Tonto – described by Disney as “a spirit warrior on a personal quest” – and Hammer as the masked man who became a pop-culture sensation with radio and television audiences of past generations. Verbinski (now a newly minted Oscar winner) told Hero Complex in early 2011 that he would be taking the mythology in a very different direction and that this version of Tonto (just like Jack Sparrow in “Pirates”) would use Depp’s nimble charisma to add a touch of the absurd to the straight-faced screen traditions.

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I would have liked to see Evan Adams play Tonto.
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I think the raven on his head is a trained raven, and it is just perching on his head, not dead and stuffed. Note, there is something white on Depp's face. Obviously, the raven makes a habit of perching on his head.
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I guess that is what I'm asking all the offended people who have posted their opinion on here.

What historical significance did Tonto have to NDNs that it would offend you to see Johnny Drop play Tonto in a movie?
Not offended per se with the character that will have to wait until the film comes out, just disturbed that they would use a dead, protected species as a prop.

I'm going to have to side with Adam Beach's remarks on why more Native actors aren't getting the parts that are Native.
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Just exactly...who was 'Tonto'? LOL

I was wondering just who exactly is this person Johnny Depp is going to portray.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonto



Here are some FAQs...

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I kinda liked this fact. LOL

Originally, Tonto rode double with the Lone Ranger on Silver. After a publicity photo was taken of the Lone Ranger and Tonto this way, WXYZ wisely decided to give Tonto his own steed.


Yesterday, I was looking at the mountains where the 'Lone Ranger' was filmed and I started smiling inside.
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Interesting! But is there someone who can verify that KEMOSABE and TONTO really come from the Potawatomie language?
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I agree with you about using authentic stuff, but it might be a crow. And, with today's props, it may be a piece of styrofoam with feathers. LOL

I'm thinking we're gonna see humor in the movie. Humor is not a bad thing.

For some of us older people, we grew up with Barbara Stanwyck and Burt Lancaster in wigs and Charles Bronson as Chato. All kinds of B-rated spaghetti westerns. We shouldn't be mad at Johnny. We should be mad at Hollywood for making Tonto (Jay Silverheels) the stereotypical Indian.

And how about the Indian playing the italian who was playing an Indian with a tear on the side of the road. Are we offended about that?

Let's wait and get offended AFTER the movie comes out and all those people think Natives run around with a black chicken on their head.

I'm gonna go get a masssage now
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I wanted to be Lone Ranger for Halloween this year.

Looking at Mr. Depp's *Tonto costume*, I would be more authentic as his version of TONTO.

Why not? Chicks dig Depp

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But what is your opinion on JDepp playing Tonto? Are you offended?
It's hard to be offended when the first guy to play the part changed his name to "Indian up" for jobs (and he was an actual Indian).
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Thats so awesome! They will be shooting the film around our neck of the woods!
Hopefully we get a sighting! LOL
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I do like most of what Johnny Depp does, so I'm hoping that is a live bird on his head.

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Thats AWESOME...LOL....Hope he talks like the real Tonto as well..."He no tell me, tell me tell you come quick" HAHA...
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But what is your opinion on JDepp playing Tonto? Are you offended?
Johnny Depp is a smudge native, which is why he has a native tat. Which is about as much as most of the natives on this site. :P So it's not a big deal about him playing the role but indeed...the bird is distracting and pretty ridiculous.
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Johnny Depp is a smudge native, which is why he has a native tat. Which is about as much as most of the natives on this site.
Now that's an interesting observation...
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