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Old 12-21-2011, 09:22 PM   #21
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As a monitor, I have noticed a trend.

Anyone from Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida often doesn't get taken seriously and is often dogpiled.

How come?
WHOME...are you talking about here? on these threads?
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How come you left out Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina?
HEY...im in TENNESSEE.
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Isn't the latest new rap-star from Alabama? YELAWOLF claims Cherokee from his dad's side.

Overall, these states East of the Mississippi River have a lot more ethnicities mixed into the Native populations, so not just blue-eyed Natives, but also some with 'Fros. (Eastern Medicine Singers)

Therefore, seems some people over that way tend to "get away" with claiming Native, or, my favorite...."Ten Percent Native American".

They don't pass the test with Natives west of the Missy-Sip!
TEST?? WHAT TEST??? DID I MISS AN IMPORTANT TEST?? DANG...after highschool..i thought i was all done with testing...well, except for the drivers license.
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WHOME...are you talking about here? on these threads?



HEY...im in TENNESSEE.


TEST?? WHAT TEST??? DID I MISS AN IMPORTANT TEST?? DANG...after highschool..i thought i was all done with testing...well, except for the drivers license.
Is YOU a Ten-Percenter?
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:46 AM   #24
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WHOME...are you talking about here? on these threads?



HEY...im in TENNESSEE.


TEST?? WHAT TEST??? DID I MISS AN IMPORTANT TEST?? DANG...after highschool..i thought i was all done with testing...well, except for the drivers license.
Amigo straightened us out on that one already. It's the "who claims you test." This is how I pass it. I play my mother in law against my hubby.That way- if hubby isn't claiming me on a certain day then my mom in law will! Then I can stay in pow wows .com........ROFL at myself!!!

ssshhhh AF. we should stop playin around now-cuz I think these guys are tryin to have a serious discussion about something.
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see he cleared that up. Thanks Amigo!!!!!!
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Don't get offended! LOL

Just be offended by the fakes. I get these all the time at powwows, since I am Irish (look white) , I tend to attract theses *experts* that want to school me. Sometimes they are just people with a dark suntan, wearing a dreamcatcher they just bought from a powwow vendor. Maybe they will have some turquoise & silver jewelry on, or junky feathers hanging off a necklace....

Ennywayz, they come up to me to impress me with their Nativeness, ask me if I've ever been to a powwow before, etc. but when I start sharing MY knowledge, they look for a reason to disappear - ZOOM !!

The only "jewelry" I wear is an acorn necklace I bought from a Baja California Kumiai' lady.

LOL so I will tell the plastic shamans the purpose of my necklace - if I ever get lost on a journey, and run out of provisions, I can eat my necklace! They never have a comeback for that one.

So, my comments on this thread are not in any way to disrespect those who actually are Native.

I'm talking about those fakes that make it hard on everybody else.
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giggle.....that was just too funny Amigo....


HMM...I'm wondering where I fit in now?....
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Dogpiled?

Jumped on?

Made Fun of?

Well if your from one of these states and claim to be Cherokee
What do you think?
If you have stories of Lost Cherokee Tribes and want to name your dog Moon Beam
What do you think?

Paul started the Spectator Thread that is highly moderated and a good place for people to test the waters so to speak

But if they post out in the open...
Game on baby

I have discovered no matter where you are from if you post on here using the following words:
Cherokee from....
Lost Cherokee from...
Ndn sounding name that has wolf in it...
I just recently discovered I am...
Where can i find how to get a ndn name...
I want to start dancing...
My GGG Grandma was a Cherokee Princess...
Hi my Name is Hummingbird and I am from Florida...

You are going to get dogpiled no matter what

I first posted on this website while I was working in Georgia back in 2005, although I am from Oklahoma it became pretty evident very quickly that people assume that you dont know what your talking about simply by the fact where you live. I moved back to Oklahoma in 2006 and poof I became Ndn again on PW.com.
Now that is fact.
So my advice is move to where the Ndns are!! LOL
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Is YOU a Ten-Percenter?
nahhh, i said im IN tennessee.....not FROM tennessee. **laughin**
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ssshhhh AF. we should stop playin around now-cuz I think these guys are tryin to have a serious discussion about something.
YOU tryin to shush ME??.....PUT UP YER DUKES!!...
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Dogpiled?

So my advice is move to where the Ndns are!! LOL
would those be in OREGON too?....because i am moving there next......
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Amigo, did I really see that the "powwow", (using term loosely there) actually stopped and gathered in front of these guys? (in the first video.)

I mean I know I take after my dad a bit more in the pigmentation or lack there of area, but D@MN, them guys was white, Cmama, I think you no longer hold the title Glow stick. lol

I would like to make the point though that there are several folks on here from those area that are not flakes, You know who you are, and who you aren't. Trouble, darling, you got nothing to wonder about.

Josiah, you are still my hero.

There's software that sniffs out plagiarism, maybe we should come up with software to sniff out wannabe's.
just sayin.

WhoMe, I think that for the most part folks are willing to maybe think ok, so this person is excited or overly excited, and maybe they didn't think before posting. A little sarcasm or even indifference comes out and wow it either goes WAY over their heads or they act like you said something about their mama's, that's when it becomes like a freeing frenzy. Case in point, this history guy trying to tel Josiah the "real" Cherokee history, I mean that guy was just asking for it, shoot he actually invited it, then whined, and cried, and accused, and blamed, then he ran to a mod or two. All typical behavior. I know we should all probably be nicer, but at that moment, I'm thinking, "Fair game!"
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Dogpiled?

Jumped on?

Made Fun of?

Well if your from one of these states and claim to be Cherokee
What do you think?
If you have stories of Lost Cherokee Tribes and want to name your dog Moon Beam
What do you think?

Paul started the Spectator Thread that is highly moderated and a good place for people to test the waters so to speak

But if they post out in the open...
Game on baby

I have discovered no matter where you are from if you post on here using the following words:
Cherokee from....
Lost Cherokee from...
Ndn sounding name that has wolf in it...
I just recently discovered I am...
Where can i find how to get a ndn name...
I want to start dancing...
My GGG Grandma was a Cherokee Princess...
Hi my Name is Hummingbird and I am from Florida...

You are going to get dogpiled no matter what

I first posted on this website while I was working in Georgia back in 2005, although I am from Oklahoma it became pretty evident very quickly that people assume that you dont know what your talking about simply by the fact where you live. I moved back to Oklahoma in 2006 and poof I became Ndn again on PW.com.
Now that is fact.
So my advice is move to where the Ndns are!! LOL
Well, for some of us.. me exactly... we have our beliefs that get tripped when we hear the phrases:

We hid out in the hills,
We hid out in the forests,
We hid out in the safer states,
We hid out because we were afraid the children would be taken away...

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When Raven gave light to the world, the creatures that roamed the earth then got scared and ran away. The ones that hid in the mountains, became the mountains, the ones who hid in the forests, became the trees and the ones who stood tall and faced the breaking of the dawn and saw the light, became the humans. By Gene Tagaban


To me, if a person says their family ran to the hills or denied that there was any NDN blood for however many generations, it says that person is someone else now by choice.

I myself, would dearly love to see the populations swell with the number of Aboriginal peoples but some of these misguided folks are the very ones make it hard for First Nation people to be taken seriously. These folks are usually the ones who parade about in feathers and turquoise, doing very public made up ceremonies, rewriting our histories with stuff they made up and attempting to sell our image overseas. They do us a great amount of harm because they perpetuate the romantic notions of the Noble Savage.

They do it using a few words from the Lakota, the Cherokee while mixing in ceremonies they lifted from the Navajo, Apache and Hopi. They wear buckskin and feathers and if they can't get their hands on these hides they wear cow hides that are dyed the same colour as my brown shoes. They wear anything that looks pretty to them without knowing what any of it means and when asked, they again make it up. They sing songs that are made up and think that if they repeat Hey-ya-hey long enough they'll hear a whistle and be "blessed". They steal from others as well, the Hindi, the Japanese, the Tibetans, the Wiccans and Celts. They mix everything up so much that when we want to talk about our beliefs, we are laughed at as being wrong.

Just as an aside, here I am in a little prairie town with no visible signs of any one also being Haida/Yukon Indian other than myself. I walk into the town's library and on display are some paintings. One painting is a Haida raven and another is a portrait of a Cree dancer that I have met at a few pow wows. I think great, there must be another west coaster here. I track down the artist to find he's a white guy with zero connections to anything Haida or Cree but feels he can co-opt our art and images for his personal gain. I got a hold of the dancer and asked him if he gave his permission to be painted and he didn't even know this artist let alone give permission. When I asked the artist why he picked these images to paint, he replied that he liked them and saw no harm. You see, these kind of folks whether they dress up as an Indian or co-opt our images never see themselves as causing harm. There were so many errors on his Raven piece that I cringe at the thought of someone buying it and thinking that they have a nice piece of west coast art. I offered to teach him how to draw our line forms and he declined. He said he wasn't interested in learning how it's really done.

I believe they do so because they honestly think that we are all gone/extinct and our culture is up for grabs now. When they run into folks that aren't extinct, they get all defensive because they can't accept that we're still here and by being so, we are in their way. I have never once run into a wannabe that after a frank discussion about cultural theft etc simply say.. "Oh, wow was I wrong to even try this, I'll stop now." They always make me out to be the bad guy. Kind of like now...
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yes! i wannabe a mad rambling posting all kinds of nonsense on a website bcuz its the only way i can authenticate my ndn-ness hahaha
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@Grits & Beans, just expose your neck and I make sure you leave with a coral necklace, eh?
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As a monitor, I have noticed a trend.

Anyone from Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Florida often doesn't get taken seriously and is often dogpiled.

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