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Old 10-01-2007, 07:26 PM   #41
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Very tiring and tedious. Stressful to say the least. But I'm taking my children swimming so that'll be pretty sweet.
Oh man that does sound very good but its kind of cold here pants and light jackets it went from 109 to 46 at nights in just about a 2week period. Have lots of fun!
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:33 PM   #42
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heyy ,everone is on now so i will take this time to say hi and do you still love me joe G ?
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Yes I do remember... thank you.

And again IHB... if you're going to tell a story... tell the whole story please. I said that AFTER she made a bigoted comment regarding sexual preference. It highly offended me. I notice you haven't admonished her for what she said IHB
Because it was'nt her that made the comment.
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what about intertribal warfare? we used to kill each other WAAAAAY before the white people attempted to kill us off....does that mean we shouldn't interact w/other native nations because once upon a time they killed our warriors & stole our horses & women?? Does this mean that powwows & other social native gatherings are a hypocrisy because we're dancing amongst those that once killed our ancestors??

your question seems small minded.....
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what about intertribal warfare? we used to kill each other WAAAAAY before the white people attempted to kill us off....does that mean we shouldn't interact w/other native nations because once upon a time they killed our warriors & stole our horses & women?? Does this mean that powwows & other social native gatherings are a hypocrisy because we're dancing amongst those that once killed our ancestors??

your question seems small minded.....
Yeah we still tease and joke with other tribes around here about how goot we are!

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what about intertribal warfare? we used to kill each other WAAAAAY before the white people attempted to kill us off....does that mean we shouldn't interact w/other native nations because once upon a time they killed our warriors & stole our horses & women?? Does this mean that powwows & other social native gatherings are a hypocrisy because we're dancing amongst those that once killed our ancestors??

your question seems small minded.....
Small minded because I can't understand something? From now on then, whenever someone doesn't understand something I'll tell them to keep quiet.

The difference is with tribal warfare... tribes weren't obliterating 100million natives over a couple of hundred years, or weren't using germ warfare against each other, or weren't using gatling guns against unarmed people who are already freezing in the weather.
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Small minded because I can't understand something? From now on then, whenever someone doesn't understand something I'll tell them to keep quiet.

The difference is with tribal warfare... tribes weren't obliterating 100million natives over a couple of hundred years, or weren't using germ warfare against each other, or weren't using gatling guns against unarmed people who are already freezing in the weather.
I said your question SEEMED small minded....it doesn't seem like you're trying to understand any of the comments....oh & i didn't tell you to keep quiet....i was just stating MY opinion of your question.

It doesn't matter what weapons were used or for how long, killing is killing regardless of how you choose to execute your plan....the whole premise of your arugment is that people were killing people & later, MUCH later sided w/those people....right?

Besides....natives were naturally born warriors, hunters, we didn't need fancy guns or germ warfare. The freezing weather is just something you're using for sympathetic purposes....it was something EVERY kind of people has had to endure....it's called "living conditions"
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I was reading an article somewhere that talked about ndn warfare and how it was all about showing bravery, touching the enemy with a coup stick and going home... I was like riiight and I am sure they got all those scalps, horses and women oh yea and food supplies, furs (and whatever else made one tribes life easier at the expense of another tribe) at cutsie little roadside stands on the way home...
To me personally it is not about the past but about the present. It's about loving your country no matter who runs it, justice, a way of life (by your FREE choice) and much more. At the same time it is money and security and whatever else my kids need. That's why we are a military family and much more reasons...
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what about intertribal warfare? we used to kill each other WAAAAAY before the white people attempted to kill us off....does that mean we shouldn't interact w/other native nations because once upon a time they killed our warriors & stole our horses & women?? Does this mean that powwows & other social native gatherings are a hypocrisy because we're dancing amongst those that once killed our ancestors??

your question seems small minded.....
GREAT POINT, I HAD FAMILY THAT FOUGHT ON BOTH SIDES DURING THE MODOC WAR IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. ONE OF THEM WAS EVENTUALLY BURIED AS A "WAR HERO" BY THE US GOVT, IN HIS OLD AGE.
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Yeppers, that Bux had a good comment about the natives against natives waaaayback.

Now, I don't give a hoot if Bux is a Crow. I still likes her. She aiight.
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HEY! u copied me! BEFORE I got a chance to post! Jokez...Actually I always get a flash on charlie browns teacher. "Wahwahwah wah wah wahwhahaawhawha"


PERSONALLY I wouldnt be so apt to base my opinions based on books written/edited/misterpereted by WHITE/european Men. It comes accross more like OB likes attention and we're all just buying into it. Although it seems like he's NEVER got one nice thing to say about anything. Some o' his posts are actually thought provoking...Then he posts something else that completely shatters the validity of the post before...Owno. Whatever....and opinions just an opinion. I'm sure i'll see a magical red bead to appear sometime soon...
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GREAT POINT, I HAD FAMILY THAT FOUGHT ON BOTH SIDES DURING THE MODOC WAR IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. ONE OF THEM WAS EVENTUALLY BURIED AS A "WAR HERO" BY THE US GOVT, IN HIS OLD AGE.
That must've really sucked. I've got a friend in Belgium who had two uncles in World War Two. One uncle fought for the underground, and the other fought for the Nazi's. It tore the family apart and they don't talk about the uncle joining the enemy and becoming a traitor anymore.

Do you know more about your family back then? How did it affect the entire family with one fighting for the enemy? I'd be interested to hear more if you're interested in telling :)
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HEY! u copied me! BEFORE I got a chance to post! Jokez...Actually I always get a flash on charlie browns teacher. "Wahwahwah wah wah wahwhahaawhawha"


PERSONALLY I wouldnt be so apt to base my opinions based on books written/edited/misterpereted by WHITE/european Men. It comes accross more like OB likes attention and we're all just buying into it. Although it seems like he's NEVER got one nice thing to say about anything. Some o' his posts are actually thought provoking...Then he posts something else that completely shatters the validity of the post before...Owno. Whatever....and opinions just an opinion. I'm sure i'll see a magical red bead to appear sometime soon...
Sorry guy... but you are just wrong. The only attention I want is answers to my legitimate questions, and believe it or not I actually want conflicting opinions against mine (about the natives in the military) because it gives me something to compare mine to. Other than that, I couldn't give a toss about attention.
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...To me personally it is not about the past but about the present. It's about loving your country no matter who runs it, justice, a way of life (by your FREE choice) and much more. At the same time it is money and security and whatever else my kids need. That's why we are a military family and much more reasons...
This is the part I don't get. But anyway... you mentioned justice. Are you referring to judicial system in the U.S, or social justice for the past?
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