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azshinob 09-10-2005 02:46 PM

racism or lack of manners?
 
just wondering if anyone else has thought about this? the other day a chimook(non native) reached in front of me without saying anything, kinda like i wasn't there. Part of me says it is racism.I must be getting mean and grumpy,I turn around and do the same thing to them.

Joe's Dad 09-10-2005 02:57 PM

Did you get real close to their face and give them the 'I'm gonna kill you' look? I hate when azzholes try to act condescending.

azshinob 09-10-2005 03:11 PM

No looks, but i did do the same to him.I kinda figure i'll do the same thing to whomever does it to me, nothing more. His girlfriend must of felt bad she kinda stepped between, and kept it at bay.Can't we all just get along? funny thing, i met Rodney King he seemed to be a nice guy.

Annie Fawn 09-10-2005 03:15 PM

Could have been they had their mind on something else and didn't even notice someone was in front of them. Next time just look at them and say I could have passed it to you if you had asked.
Of course, it could have been 1 of those dense white people who think natives can't speak English. I've met a few of those.

quicksilverwade 09-10-2005 04:02 PM

It was racism unless you were taking your time while the Chimook was in a rush in which case I understand what happened. Either way, you should always be aware of your surroundings. Next time, thrust your chest and punch him in the face.

Singing Otter 09-10-2005 05:52 PM

:lol: @ punch them in the face

I usually say excuse ME and they get a look like "oh I didn't realize" and they say I'm sorry, pardon me, or excuse me ... but there have been a few times some didn't catch on and I'll say "Must have left your manners at home today" or "Damn you have absolutely NO home training do you? A simple excuse me would have sufficed nicely."

*Mystic* 09-10-2005 06:51 PM

I think it was racism. There are people out here who just have that meaness about them & feel they can go out & do whatever they want all because of your ethnic background. If he had that "I don't care who you are look", I believe that's racism & lack of manners. But if he didn't have that look, he probably was in a rush & just forgot to say "excuse me."

andre 09-10-2005 10:29 PM

Saying "excuse me" is a reflex. You either have it or you don't, you can't forget. So the answer to the question is: "YES"

little bird 09-11-2005 12:32 AM

Don't react no matter what! The thing is...THEY are showing how low, and ignorant THEY are. If WE react, THEY got you down to they're level and end up bein' happy about it. Ok, so just smile and go on like you know this about them and they'll be left trying to figure out what just happened. :tounge_sm
And try to remember: Do unto others as you would have them do to you. NOT: Do to them what they just did to you back when it's bad. We're better than that. REMEMBER WHO WE ARE! :shakehand :flybye:

badmaninc 09-11-2005 02:06 AM

Dude, who cares. Move on. Dwelling on it only gives them power. If your life wasn't in imminent jeopardy, it isn't worth worrying about. If it bugs you then ask them when it happens to you. Letting it fester just drains you and it isn't really worth all that.

Dakota Wica'hpi Ina 09-11-2005 03:02 AM

Good point, Bad. It's not worth worrying about. Most people now a days are not taught manners. It's no longer deemed necessary to do it at home but the schools don't teach them either. I applaud those that have manners and pass that moral fibre to their kids.

"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -Benjamin Franklin

little wolf 09-11-2005 05:19 AM

That kinda happened to me in the store. This spanish lady just cut right in front of me at the check out, which I was next in line and put her stuff right on the counter! I'm like NO SHE DIDN"T! The cashier looked at me like WTF? I talked about her the whole time she was there, yep right in her face.. She didn't even know what I was saying..lol kinda maybe feel alot better! I call it lack of maners!

azshinob 09-12-2005 03:37 PM


azshinob 09-12-2005 03:44 PM

I agree dwelling such a situation is not productive in any way shape or form. I take every encounter such as i mentioned and dismiss it from my mind as soon as possible, for i know if i keep it inside i might become a bitter and revengeful person. I hope my post will allow those that have been in similar situations, to be able to post there experiences and thereby relieve themselves of some of the negative feelings.

middle of the sky 09-12-2005 04:31 PM

guessyou havent caught a bus in downtown vancouver...then youll see no manners...

*Mystic* 09-12-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by middle of the sky
guessyou havent caught a bus in downtown vancouver...then youll see no manners...

Really?! That's how it is here in Philly! I mean, you be ready to beat somebody down because they are extremely igorant & immature.

middle of the sky 09-12-2005 05:00 PM

particularly the numbers 20, 16 and 22 busses..im not saying all chinese people are pushy..i kinda think the reason is cuz theres so many of them in china they have to fight for space...i let the old people on first..everyone...dont care what they are...but the others that try to squeeze in..i mean that shove you outta the way..even when i was 9 m0nths pregnant..i had to yell.. 'im pregnant!!' anywayz..and the young people that dont let elders sit down... i want to say..shees u got a mixed up culture..let the ol people sit down ...wheres your respect?' and people that have bags or crap and put it on seats ..i said to one guy 'did you pay for 3 seats? no' and i shoved his bags off..i guess i should go to charm school...

buckskin pantyhose 09-12-2005 05:11 PM

I think it has to do w/the superior vs inferior attitude so many people have...it's not that they're being racist or even care to entertain the idea of committing a racist act, i think it's simply arrogance, if someone feels they're better than someone else they aren't going to care who they cross, how rude they are or how their actions affect others, they probably don't even aknowledge the fact that they're being down right rude.....

This wknd i got into w/a lady who tried to stop me from getting on a crowded subway car, she straight up pushed against me trying to prevent me from getting on the train, we exchanged words & i basically shut her up by asking if she owned the train....i laughed all the way home because i yelled at someone's MOM! hahahaha....RUDENESS some people don't know anything else!

~pathwalker~ 09-13-2005 07:17 AM

Lack of manners!
 
It was deffinately lack of manners and NOT racism. We should not attribute racism to everything bad that happens. Some (alot) ppl are just rude and it happens to everyone, no matter what your skin color is. When a racist event happens to you, you KNOW it is racism and would not have to ask...
Doing back to them doesnt get thru to them because that is what they have learned. Use words..Some ppl here sugested nice words, other suggested not so nice words, they both get the point aross alot better than remaining quiet and doing it back. Thats whats wrong with this world anyway, ppl assuming one thing or another instead of communicating.

chazziff 09-13-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by middle of the sky
particularly the numbers 20, 16 and 22 busses..im not saying all chinese people are pushy..i kinda think the reason is cuz theres so many of them in china they have to fight for space...i let the old people on first..everyone...dont care what they are...but the others that try to squeeze in..i mean that shove you outta the way..even when i was 9 m0nths pregnant..i had to yell.. 'im pregnant!!' anywayz..and the young people that dont let elders sit down... i want to say..shees u got a mixed up culture..let the ol people sit down ...wheres your respect?' and people that have bags or crap and put it on seats ..i said to one guy 'did you pay for 3 seats? no' and i shoved his bags off..i guess i should go to charm school...

i know what you mean about people of asian descent - sounding all racist myself generalizing and everythang - but hey it's just an observation of things i've had to deal with.

i used to work in at a casino that has busloads of ppl coming in from other prov.'s and cities - well this one bus was mostly asian ppl. well during the lunch and supper rushes - there was like sometimes 120 - 140 ppl from all the buses trying to come in at the SAME TIME to eat and that wasn't even including the usual lunch/supper ppl from outside - in a restaurant that seats like 100.

the asian ppl used just bypass the line-up of the ppl waiting to get in and try sit down at empty dirty tables - shouting their food order out to servers walking by with other orders. i as a supervisor had to tell them that they had to go to the back of the line behind all the ppl who were waiting - but as i was walking up - to them they would have to leave - they were trying to tell me their food order in perfect english. but when they figured out what i was trying to do they used to try act like they couldn't understand/speak english... maybe they were just rude ppl i don't know

but it is kinda hard to distinguish if someone is just rude or being racist - maybe they don't realize it either ...


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