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Old 07-03-2017, 02:16 AM   #45281
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Old 07-05-2017, 09:23 AM   #45282
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Some iced tea, please. I'll pass on the "organic gummy bears" Goggle Ad Choices seems to think I want.

Does anyone else find the term organic when applied to such a highly processed item as gummy bears results in a certain cognitive dissonance? I don't doubt the product in question meets the standards set forth by the USDA to "...have been produced using cultural, biological, and mechanical practices that support the cycling of on-farm resources, promote ecological balance, and conserve biodiversity..." (USDA fact sheet on the National Organic Program) But, in the popular imagination "organic" equals "healthy." It seems an odd imprimatur to impart to a candy made of components few lay persons would readily connect with a agricultural product.

Or is this one of those weird things only a chemist, who knows she could -- if a significantly better organicer that she is -- extract all manner of nasty compounds from natural plant materials, ponders? Or do I just need more caffeine?
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Ice tea please and more caffeine, it seems you are in need of that.

Very odd. Gummy Bear and organic whats that? And from the "Schwarzwald"?

Must be an illusion. And organic must not be healthy. Can be very unhealthy if it is the wrong organic material.
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I hate the term "organic". I hear "organic" and I think organic chemistry and bull crap marketing that lulls people into overpaying for things that most likely have no major benefit over the commodity version.

Once a long while time ago, and in a drunken stupor, my friend and I plotted to open a gas station and advertise it as selling "organic fuels". Technically speaking we would not be lying. Would probably have made a small fortune.
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[QUOTE=Toolbox;1633031}I think organic chemistry [/QUOTE]

I can remember some organic chemistry which makes me shudder.


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BrokenArrow, "Organic" in US trade parlance means the agricultural products, ingredients and handling/processing methods for a food item meet specific US Department of Agriculture guidelines. Broadly these mean the item is produced using few to no synthetic chemical pesticides and fertilizers. The use of the term applied to a food item is legally regulated.

In mainstream US culture organic foods tend to be regarded as healthier. They also tend to be luxury items, since they are generally higher -- often significantly higher -- cost. They are status items.

There is an high level of scientific ignorance in the US. People don't understand the difference between correlation and causality. This tends to play out in:

1) Nutrition fads -- oat bran, vegetarianism, low carb, gluten-free, dark chocolate.... Let a study say that a correlation has been observed between Macedonian Spotted Goldfish consumption and reduced pinky cancer and, inside a week, the talk shows and magazines will be telling us we all need to take massive doses of Macedonian Spotted Goldfish concentrate.

2) Chemical phobias. Walk through any store or listen to radio and you'll see or hear some product touted as "chemical-free." We'll just ignore the fact that chemical free means a vacuum.

3) Natural equals safe. As I have said before, Ricin is a natural product. The Creator is an organic chemist extraordinaire. He has made many many plants and animals with exquisite pathways for producing biologically active substances -- for healing and for lethal defensive tactics.


Organic chemistry makes me shudder too. After the first lab, while I was dumping the water out of my shoe, I received sage advice: "....physical chemistry, promptly."
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Replace Organic by Öko and it sounds all like our system.

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1)Let a study say that a correlation has been observed between Macedonian Spotted Goldfish consumption and reduced pinky cancer and, inside a week, the talk shows and magazines will be telling us we all need to take massive doses of Macedonian Spotted Goldfish concentrate.

2) Chemical phobias. ...some product touted as "chemical-free." We'll just ignore the fact that chemical free means a vacuum.

3) Natural equals safe. As I have said before, Ricin is a natural product. The Creator is an organic chemist extraordinaire. He has made many many plants and animals with exquisite pathways for producing biologically active substances -- for healing and for lethal defensive tactics.


Organic chemistry makes me shudder too. After the first lab, while I was dumping the water out of my shoe, I received sage advice: "....physical chemistry, promptly."
Sigh, you are all to right. As to the ignorance of people as to creator. And mankind has in my view tampered too much with creators world.
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I will say this (over a cup of coffee, please) I have found that organic food reminds me of the food I ate as a child. It's tastes like it's supposed to taste. I splurged on some organic steaks at the grocery (for our anniversary) and they actually tasted like good beef steaks should taste. I tend to buy organic produce when I can just to avoid the chemicals. Around here, especially this time of year, you can buy produce off the back of somebody's tailgate, and odds are it's going to be organic.
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Isn't the term "organic" products the equivalent to the german used word "bio" ? Bio-Products like vegetables etc. are supposingly healthier than the usual stuff. I think it's just more expensive than healthier. However... yadda-yadda...
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The non chemical but biological healthy food seems not as easy to achieve as it sounds.

Asked an farmer in my club. He said, if you want to do farming without chemicals and you are a small farmer, you are bankrupt before you have a chance to reach a break even point or become a biological farmer. You need about seven years to get your fields cleaned from the chemicals that you can sell vegetables as bio vegetables.
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Coffee ! Taking a break from all our improvements around here. I guess we're gonna be chicken farmers ! LOL Turned one of the horse stalls into a hen house( much to the dismay of the horse! ). Then , with that working out so well, my beautiful wife and I decided to build another chicken house over beside one of out sheds where we keep the lawn mower. Good spot ! Now , this wouldn't be bad , but my RA has been killing my wrists and hands/fingers for about the last week so I can't really get everything moving until mid day and now it's up in the 90s by then.Also , the 1 house has now become 2 as a divider has been installed down the center , so we can utilize the space for 2 breeds of chickens ! By the time we're done we will have 4 ! LOL Barred Rocks were the first we acquired , then we acquired an incubator , so we have eggs hatching in a couple weeks (mutt chickens) Then we ordered a dozen Rhode Island Reds and a dozen White Leghorns from a hatchery. They will be here wed. I guess we'll be in the chicken business ! LMAO
Right now I really just want my hands and wrists to quit hurting !
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Good spot ! Now , this wouldn't be bad , but my RA has been killing my wrists and hands/fingers for about the last week so I can't really get everything moving until mid day and now it's up in the 90s by then.

They will be here wed. I guess we'll be in the chicken business !

Right now I really just want my hands and wrists to quit hurting !
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Went to work with a pear, half liter of sparkling table water and hoped or a small lunch sponsored by those who leave us.

Got just one single muffin and some orange juice.
I did not consider the sparkling wine. Bad idea as I have to drive to far by car by our scale of dimensions.
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Coffee please.

Summer exams and paper work done so far. What has not been done can wait until the time is right.

Monday is first day of summer holidays.
May you all have a good time.
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Do we have any of the Valium dosed iced tea around? LOL.

Time for a round of Rose's sour grape, LOL. I can't decide which has me more frustrated this morning.

Candidate 1: Apple. In the continuing campaign to make all development on all Apple products follow the iOS model, my buddies out there at 1 Infinite Loop removed from the latest XCode upgrade the option of having a project generate using XIB and window controllers. "Thou shalt use storyboards." Even if it extremely poorly documented for OSX development. Even if it becomes really freaking hard to open and close new windows. Even if you have to use some really counterintuitive delegate patterns.

Thanks guys; may all your children grow up to be Windows programmers. I want learn new coding patterns on a deadline. But I know if I don't, I'm just some small number of OS upgrades from broken code.

Candidate 2: The dweebs who rebuilt my lab (and several others) without ethernet ports. Hint guys: leg power and a flash drive isn't a recognized data transfer protocol. I've had to stop my move back in while we wait for the electricians to come back, cut up the wall, make more dust, and pull wire.
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Somewhere in the medicine drawer there must be some Valium left. Unfortunately, I don't have an SR71 to deliver in time at your doorstep.

Hm, perhaps both if you decide to to view them to be in two different universes which have a junction point where you can cross from one into the other.

LOL, why don't the use belated data transmitting over power line?
Oh, belated is the same murks than no ethernet in the first place.

I'll pray for you and an fast solution and as least dust as possible.

Made a trip to a famer at the outskirt of my town. He has replaced his mechanical lawn mover by Kamerun sheep. The are crazy for fresh bread roll. I fed them the three a had bought for afternoon coffee. They recognize who is visiting and greet by their "bäh". Some like it to be taken into the arm and to be fondled. It is always a very good time to visit them. They look as if they know.

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Coffee and a donut.......along with some pain relievers ! Still fighting this flare up of my RA. I think to describe how it feels would be to imagine if someone drove a 16d nail into each joint in your body ! My wrists , knuckles , elbows , shoulders , hips , knees , ankles and toe joints are the worst. A couple ibuprofen and a couple tylenol to start the day and maybe by noon I'll be able to function. Ice the wrists first thing seems to help.It's the worst it's been in a long time ! Making it tough to get all my schtuff done in preparation to be a schicken farmer ! LOL I gotta get my cut off bib overalls , rubber boots , and straw hat for the next time I come to town ! LMAO
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Not good, not good.

Seems the pain it is similar to having kidney stones which are going the way down to the natural exit. Autsch.

Not good those medicine in the long run for the stomach. We know that stuff in family.

My very best wishes to you for release from that pain. I pray for you.

Beware of rubber boots. With sweating feet after taking off the boots, store them where the smell does not disturb your nose. I forget them for one day int cars trunk. Igitt.

Managed to slip on Saturday on the concrete floor and fall backwards. Just heart my left wrist, right elbow and my butt. Those who watched said, that I was very lucky not to have hit the floor with my head. Should have paid more attention on moving. It hurts, therefore I am still alive.

As you have opted for getting a chicken farmer you may need the personal equipment it seems to fill the imagination.
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