[Toolbox]

You have a valid point a lot of morons out there think that just because they have a gun they have to show it off. You seem more like the person that would hide it in her night stand and not tell anyone that it's there. Just hide it somewhere else if any kids are coming over.

[timmy tiger]

[QUOTE=Toolbox;1507938]You have a valid point a lot of morons out there think that just because they have a gun they have to show it off. You seem more like the person that would hide it in her night stand and not tell anyone that it's there. Just hide it somewhere else if any kids are coming over.[/QUO

Oh that would be exactly what I would do and no one would know. Oh I know i would never have anything like that around children, that's another reason I never had one. I had kids all the time here and there was no way anything was going to happen. Here you have to have the gun locked one place and the ammo somewhere else. But before we always had dogs and one was a trip. If anyone came near me he would have gone nuts. When my ex and I would argue he would get between us and if my ex would raise his hands, like one time to point, the dog jumped up on him and pushed him back away from me.

[Toolbox]

Wow, LOL, a nice big dog works just as well too :)

[timmy tiger]

Yeah worked for me too and he was more protective of children then he was of me. So you can imagine how that was. He almost took my sister's face off for playing with my son, my son squelled and the dog jumped and started growling at her, he was going to eat her face.LOL

[Migiziwomen]

you know most dog breeds are that way. they will leave you to protect the children.
there is nothing really more to add as far as facts go, already been said. there is no gun in my house, but i do plan on getting a dog soon. from the pound gonna go start looking find one that will fit the family.

[Toolbox]

I want a black or a chocolate lab myself. Labs are fun and friendly dogs. My insurance company won't allow me to have a pit bull, rottweiler, chow or a doberman. Something to consider when buying a dog is if your renters or home owners insurance will allow it. They will cancel your policy if they find out you have a dog they don't like.

[APACHEFIRE]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Standard Zeke response:

1. "I feared for my life."
2. BANG.
3. BANG.
4. BANG.
5. Phone attorney.
6. Call cops.

except for one more BANG. this has been my answer for several years.
1 i am female
2 i live alone
3 i dont know any “pop-in” friends
4 i am ‘elderly’
5 i am handicapped
6 i live in a rual area
7 all my neighbors are elderly and or handicapped
8 none of them will come out of doors durning sundown, some not even in sunlight so none will
help
9 i know how to shoot very well
10 i have been assaulted several times
11 so i do truly fear for my life
12 i have LOTS of alternative weapons to use throughout the house, and plan on using any one or
more of them
13 whoever attacks me during a “i fear for my life” episode, isnt getting another chance to come
back to try again
14 i wont stop to think about which state i am living in or what the law is for where i am at the
time.

[timmy tiger]

Originally Posted by Migiziwomen

you know most dog breeds are that way. they will leave you to protect the children.
there is nothing really more to add as far as facts go, already been said. there is no gun in my house, but i do plan on getting a dog soon. from the pound gonna go start looking find one that will fit the family.

Oh yeah, and I loved it too. My sister did too most of the time.HAHAHA She moved in with us a few times and the first time her oldest daughter was only a few months old. My son had his room and we set up the crib for the baby in the room next to him. The rooms were kind of side by side, my son's room was actually at the end of the hall. So the dog would go up and lay between the two doors when the babies were sleeping until we went to bed. He was black and my sister would try to go check on her baby and the dog wouldn't let her near the room. He would stand up and block her or even once growled. We had to call him down stairs just so she could check on her baby. HE was the most awesome dog we ever had that way. He had other issues.HAHAHA But when it came to the little ones, oh no one was getting close at all and everyone knew it too.

Originally Posted by Toolbox

I want a black or a chocolate lab myself. Labs are fun and friendly dogs. My insurance company won't allow me to have a pit bull, rottweiler, chow or a doberman. Something to consider when buying a dog is if your renters or home owners insurance will allow it. They will cancel your policy if they find out you have a dog they don't like.

You know why that is? We found out 'cause the dog I've been talking about was Shepherd, doberman with a little lab in him and he had the doberman markings so many mistook him for a doberman. We found out that the breeders of the Rots and Dobs, and a few other's, will over bread them and as generations are born their skulls shrink and don't grow when their brains do so when they get older they tend to snap and attack anyone including their own people. This came straight from the vet and then the Insurance agent confirmed it. So if you get a mixed breed, they are just as protective, but don't have the same problems. I found that out the hard/easy way.LOL

[muskrat_skull]

If someone comes late at night and you don't have a loaded firearm under your pillow, mattress or right at hand, you may not have a chance to use it. I had a new baby and was attacked in my sleep (you know how deep you sleep when you finally get a chance to, you get woke up so much). I pulled the murderous sob off my husband and threw him across the room and went at him with a ferocious scream I was gonna rip his eyeballs out he ran in terror, and this was while I was wounded, he thought I was dead. Shotgun in the closet, ammo on the shelf. Never thought to get it. Adrenaline is a great thing, I have no doubt I would have killed the guy with my bare hands at 104 pounds. I was mad, my husband was unconscious.

Any type of dog that barked could have provided much more protection and I could've armed myself or he might have just took off before harming us. Oh, and dogs love kids because they drop food. Drop more food and your dog will love you more!!! My chihuahuas hate kids. Love me though. I thought about getting an army of them instead of a big dog. They know who brings home the dog chow.

[APACHEFIRE]

Originally Posted by muskrat_skull

If someone comes late at night and you don't have a loaded firearm under your pillow, mattress or right at hand, you may not have a chance to use it. I had a new baby and was attacked in my sleep (you know how deep you sleep when you finally get a chance to, you get woke up so much). I pulled the murderous sob off my husband and threw him across the room and went at him with a ferocious scream I was gonna rip his eyeballs out he ran in terror, and this was while I was wounded, he thought I was dead. Shotgun in the closet, ammo on the shelf. Never thought to get it. Adrenaline is a great thing, I have no doubt I would have killed the guy with my bare hands at 104 pounds. I was mad, my husband was unconscious.

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[subeeds]

I'm with trouble. I will shoot first and ask questions later. We have always had at least one rifle in the house, if not more. Our property is posted-Private Property and No Trespassing. And a Stop sign we found when we moved in the house.
Since we are close to I-95, the cops will sometimes lose somebody in the woods. Last time that happened, they came in the yard looking for him. I told them that if I saw him, I would hold him for them and if he gave me any problems, I would call them after I shot him. They freaked. "Please don't shoot him, ma'm. It makes a lot of paperwork for us if you do". I thought I would laugh until I cried over that.

[Toolbox]

Originally Posted by timmy tiger

You know why that is? We found out 'cause the dog I've been talking about was Shepherd, doberman with a little lab in him and he had the doberman markings so many mistook him for a doberman. We found out that the breeders of the Rots and Dobs, and a few other's, will over bread them and as generations are born their skulls shrink and don't grow when their brains do so when they get older they tend to snap and attack anyone including their own people. This came straight from the vet and then the Insurance agent confirmed it. So if you get a mixed breed, they are just as protective, but don't have the same problems. I found that out the hard/easy way.LOL

I never new that about the over breeding but I can see that as being true. That is crazy.

Originally Posted by muskrat_skull

If someone comes late at night and you don't have a loaded firearm under your pillow, mattress or right at hand, you may not have a chance to use it. I had a new baby and was attacked in my sleep (you know how deep you sleep when you finally get a chance to, you get woke up so much). I pulled the murderous sob off my husband and threw him across the room and went at him with a ferocious scream I was gonna rip his eyeballs out he ran in terror, and this was while I was wounded, he thought I was dead. Shotgun in the closet, ammo on the shelf. Never thought to get it. Adrenaline is a great thing, I have no doubt I would have killed the guy with my bare hands at 104 pounds. I was mad, my husband was unconscious.

Any type of dog that barked could have provided much more protection and I could've armed myself or he might have just took off before harming us. Oh, and dogs love kids because they drop food. Drop more food and your dog will love you more!!! My chihuahuas hate kids. Love me though. I thought about getting an army of them instead of a big dog. They know who brings home the dog chow.

A big thumbs up for you for defending yourself without a firearm. I would still keep a loaded, not cocked, 9mm or 45, or maybe a Tokarev (30 caliberish) in my night stand... until the day I have kids running around.

[subeeds]

We've always had guns-safely-even when my son was small. He was taught gun safety at an early age-a lot of kids here are. He also saw what that little tiny bullet could do. My husband shot a possum that was getting in the chickens, with a hollow point .22. My son was 5 at the time and he saw the exit wound that bullet made. He learned that day that guns aren't like what he saw on TV and that even little bullets could kill. We did always keep them out of his reach, though.

[Toolbox]

A .22 can do some nasty damage, especially self defense and hollow points.

[Joe's Dad]

Originally Posted by trouble

forgot to add, I am a shoot first, ask questions later kind of gal, ...attempting to enter my home and not having my permission to be there, means you have no NEED to be there,---- I will take that as a personal affront, and will tell the responding officer
"I WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE OFFICER."

Trespassers will be shot,...Survivors will be shot again....

Originally Posted by muskrat_skull

If someone comes late at night and you don't have a loaded firearm under your pillow, mattress or right at hand, you may not have a chance to use it. I had a new baby and was attacked in my sleep (you know how deep you sleep when you finally get a chance to, you get woke up so much). I pulled the murderous sob off my husband and threw him across the room and went at him with a ferocious scream I was gonna rip his eyeballs out he ran in terror, and this was while I was wounded, he thought I was dead. Shotgun in the closet, ammo on the shelf. Never thought to get it. Adrenaline is a great thing, I have no doubt I would have killed the guy with my bare hands at 104 pounds. I was mad, my husband was unconscious.

Any type of dog that barked could have provided much more protection and I could've armed myself or he might have just took off before harming us. Oh, and dogs love kids because they drop food. Drop more food and your dog will love you more!!! My chihuahuas hate kids. Love me though. I thought about getting an army of them instead of a big dog. They know who brings home the dog chow.

Originally Posted by subeeds

I'm with trouble. I will shoot first and ask questions later. We have always had at least one rifle in the house, if not more. Our property is posted-Private Property and No Trespassing. And a Stop sign we found when we moved in the house.
Since we are close to I-95, the cops will sometimes lose somebody in the woods. Last time that happened, they came in the yard looking for him. I told them that if I saw him, I would hold him for them and if he gave me any problems, I would call them after I shot him. They freaked. "Please don't shoot him, ma'm. It makes a lot of paperwork for us if you do". I thought I would laugh until I cried over that.

Note to self: Stay the hell outta Georgia, JD!

[subeeds]

Originally Posted by Joe's Dad

Note to self: Stay the hell outta Georgia, JD!

Chicken! LOL!

The dog we had before Sparky was half pit bull and half golden retriever. He looked just like a golden until he looked up and you saw his jaw line-all pit. He was the greatest dog-kept the baby chicks and kitties and us safe. There are 4 families on our road-spread out along 2 miles. One afternoon, the cops came down the driveway. Red was out front on his run-it was about 125 feet- from the front porch to the magnolia. He went and met the car, just like he did with everybody when he was out. Neither cop would get out of the car because of him. When I went out and told him it was ok, he sat down, tail wagging, ready to be friends. If you were dumb enough to get out of your car before my husband or I had told Red it was ok, you did not get that greeting from him-you would get teeth. One cop was too scared to get out of the car, but the other one did. He told me he was coming down to see if we had been robbed, since everybody else out there had been. Then he goes "I suppose it's a useless question with this guy around". I told him it was. LOL!

[comadre]

Originally Posted by pigheaded

tricky law in the city, plus the law goes by county,so in Maricopa county Police (those on the phone) will tell you that you can not shoot unless you first have been shot) ? HUH? Officers on patrol will tell you don't shoot unless they are actually in the house. But out in the sticks, of Pinal County all that is required is a sign posted anywhere on your property that warns, "No Trespassing, Violators will be shot." Simple as that.

yep. I second the pigster.
When I first moved down here I called the cops for someone on my property. The dispatcher had an odd tone in her voice as she asked me "well- do you have any ammo? Shoot if they move! Then she gave me a sidenote...just be sure your kids are in and it's not your dog."
I thought I had moved to Mars.
Today I fully understand that tone in her voice.
TRANSLATION? what the [email protected] are you calling us for? shoot first then call if there's a body!" LOL!!!

Desert rule of thumb
If the snakes and mountain lions don't get 'em,good for them!
But if they get past the dogs,.

[trouble]

Originally Posted by subeeds

We've always had guns-safely-even when my son was small. He was taught gun safety at an early age-a lot of kids here are. He also saw what that little tiny bullet could do. My husband shot a possum that was getting in the chickens, with a hollow point .22. My son was 5 at the time and he saw the exit wound that bullet made. He learned that day that guns aren't like what he saw on TV and that even little bullets could kill. We did always keep them out of his reach, though.

Excellent example...my daddy was taught at an extremely young age too, when his daddy shot a snake that was between his legs as he walked across a log..

That's been the example in our family for years...when daddy speaks you listen-- you do not question-- you just do --immediately without thinking , no ifs ands or buts....BECUASE IT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE ONE DAY, and
GUNS ARE MADE FOR KILLING, nothing else...they are not there for show, they are not there to brag about, they are not shiny things to take out and play with....they are tools made to kill, whether that be for food , sustenance for your livelihood, or in self defense...


Teaching children from BIRTH, in my humble opinion LOL, gun safety , and rules is without a doubt one of the most valuable bits of knowledge you can impart upon your children.....we learned, from birth it seemed, and my brothers and I all have a healthy respect for weapons of all types, .....they are "tools" to us in essence, and as such, are treated with respect and awareness of what their "job" is......

[yaahl]

Originally Posted by comadre

yep. I second the pigster.
When I first moved down here I called the cops for someone on my property. The dispatcher had an odd tone in her voice as she asked me "well- do you have any ammo? Shoot if they move! Then she gave me a sidenote...just be sure your kids are in and it's not your dog."
I thought I had moved to Mars.
Today I fully understand that tone in her voice.
TRANSLATION? what the [email protected] are you calling us for? shoot first then call if there's a body!" LOL!!!

Desert rule of thumb
If the snakes and mountain lions don't get 'em,good for them!
But if they get past the dogs,.

After reading some of the posts on here... I feel like *I live on Mars*...lol

The only time I've ever felt anixiety ridden fear was when we were in the middle of a high profile case and the entire court had been threatened. I didn't think anything of it as in my day-to-day job I have some idiot threatening me with something. So I go home that night, get ready to take the dogs out and sitting at the end of my driveway was a black sedan... so off I go for a walk. Then I notice the car is following me, and I walk faster and the car follows faster, I start to run (which the dogs now are going... "Are you going to let us pee or what?") and the car speeds up. Then I start sprinting home and the car follows even faster. The dogs by now are really annoyed at me because they all have had to pee on the run, my big boy was now running as if he needed to dry out his underbelly...

I crash into the house with dogs in tow and hubby is "What's the matter?" so I huff and puff out an answer that a big black car has been following me and is parked outside... "go call the police!" I wheeze.

So hubby is on the phone to 911 and I hear him laughing... laughing! I'm about to have heart failure from all this and he is on the phone with 911 - laughing, not a .."yeah my silly wife"... kind of chuckle but the belly jiggling, tear streaming kind of laughter that you get when someone tells you a good joke. Here's my big, tough army dude husband.. is is reaching for the rifles?nope, is he grabbing the baseball bat? nope... he's on the phone with 911 laughing...

Seems the joke was, the car was an umarked police car send around to watch the house because of the threats at court (all the court had a car by their homes). Problem was, they forgot to tell me. So hubby is laughing that he's calling the police about the police in the driveway and the dispatch had radioed the car in my driveway to ask if there was any issues... do you see where this is going? The cop replied the only problem he could see is that I don't walk slow enough to let the dogs pee properly, he told them to tell me to walk slower.

Now see if you guys had had that happen to you, you'd all just bust out the guns and ask questions later..lol

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