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Old 10-31-2004, 01:02 PM   #1
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what do you think of half white and half indian people?

What do you think about people like me, that are half white and half indian?? I would really like to know. You can tell me the truth too. I feel like other natives don't respect or consider me one of there own. What do you think?
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:56 PM   #2
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My personal opinion i like everybody, but if ur an azzhole then it doesnt really matter what color or nationality....but to answer the question, to me 50/50 aint so bad, i have a prob with white ppl(like 1/8th an less) all fighting to get status cards(canadian), for the perscriptions and dental and all that comes with it...just my opinion, dont hit me:D
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:59 PM   #3
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I personally don't have a problem with it, but my feelings toward your parents are like, "why'd the hell you do that for?" *LOL* Actually, it depends on how you carry yourself. Embrace your heritage(s).
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:07 PM   #5
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well i think im pretty f@#$%^ cool. aye just kiddin im a little bit less than a quarter white. But yeah to me it doesnt really matter if your mixed just as long as you carry youself in a good way. But on the other hand you got some of those people who think that your only native if your a fullblood...which you cant help..just as long as you know who you are my uncle has told me you dont have to prove to anyone except yourself.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:34 PM   #6
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The only way there could be a problem is if the white parent dominates and the Indian parent lets them. The child loses all Indianess. Even if the child knows he/she is 1/2 Indian, the life lessons that they are taught are different. I imagine it would be very difficult, if/when the time comes that the offspring wants to assert their native heritage. They are always held back somehow from totally grasping their native roots.

BTW, turtlespirit, do you also feel that the white people respect you and consider you as one of their own? I guess it would depend on what characteristics you inherited, right?
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I don't like them. Come on...if you aren't full blooded something, you suck. And it's REALLY bad if that other half of you is white. I mean, at least could you be half Indian and half Mexican or something? Actually, I'm totally kidding. Here's my take...why does it matter to you what other people think? Who cares! All you need to do is worry about living your life in a way that will make your parents, your grandparents, your ancestors, and your creator proud, and you'll be all good. If you were full blooded Indian, you'd still be getting talked about by other Indians for something else--it doesn't matter what you are, people are gonna find something to talk about. So don't worry about it...just live your life in a good way and screw everyone else.

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I don't like them. Come on...if you aren't full blooded something, you suck. And it's REALLY bad if that other half of you is white. I mean, at least could you be half Indian and half Mexican or something? Actually, I'm totally kidding. Here's my take...why does it matter to you what other people think? Who cares! All you need to do is worry about living your life in a way that will make your parents, your grandparents, your ancestors, and your creator proud, and you'll be all good. If you were full blooded Indian, you'd still be getting talked about by other Indians for something else--it doesn't matter what you are, people are gonna find something to talk about. So don't worry about it...just live your life in a good way and screw everyone else.

That's my opinion!
I agree. Im half white. And im damn proud of it I embrace both my native and scottish heritage. Not only do I smoke dance but I scottish highland dance as well. I dont care if people consider me indian or not I know what I am and theres nothing me or anybody else can do to change it.
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I agree. Im half white. And im damn proud of it I embrace both my native and scottish heritage.
Yeah Iroquois! Way to go!
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...the bottom line.....

But there are others on this Board, and I can think of one respondent who danced around your question with semantics and superlatives galore, who will never forget you've admitted to that horrendous of all truths...that you aren't 3/4 or FBI. From Day 1 of being up front about my mixed heritage I've taken all sorts of s**t from folks that make no bones about looking down their nose at me. And since they've never met me, that is about the only 'tangible' reason they could have for 'hating' on me. So, get used to it and consider the source. They might not come right out and say they think you, I, we are 'second class' citizens but the way you are treated out here by some will leave no doubt in your mind. I've noticed I'll post information on different things and get totally ignored, then one of the FBIs comes along 'plagiarizes', if you will, by repeating almost the same thing and gets all sorts of 'pats on the back' for being so 'wise'. Sometimes, it is treating you as 'invisible' that is a way of letting you know, but usually it isn't so subtle. Like P_Town_Mami said, even if you were FBI you'd get talked about in some fashion, it's human nature to snipe at each other. Seems all too prevalent out on this site, though. Sometimes it gets so discouraging you have to go away from the site for awhile. I've been visiting our here for four years. I come, I go. When it starts getting real negative I'll go away for awhile and come back and usually the obnoxious person has moved along looking for another audience. So, Welcome to the Club 'Turtlespirit'. ;)
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I don't like them. Come on...if you aren't full blooded something, you suck. And it's REALLY bad if that other half of you is white. I mean, at least could you be half Indian and half Mexican or something? Actually, I'm totally kidding. Here's my take...why does it matter to you what other people think? Who cares! All you need to do is worry about living your life in a way that will make your parents, your grandparents, your ancestors, and your creator proud, and you'll be all good. If you were full blooded Indian, you'd still be getting talked about by other Indians for something else--it doesn't matter what you are, people are gonna find something to talk about. So don't worry about it...just live your life in a good way and screw everyone else.

That's my opinion!
I AGREE...I started to write up a note along these same lines...but it wouldn't have been as eloquent as this...
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I AGREE...I started to write up a note along these same lines...but it wouldn't have been as eloquent as this...
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C...we got a couple days left...why don't you start a write-in campaign: "P_town_mami for President!"

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Well, I just might...lookin at who' all's runnin! But I fear an honest person hasn't much of a chance in that forum!!!! I may do it anyways ,tho! but not a lot of time left...
What struck me was I was going to start out my note sarcastically..as you did, then serious...but you beat me to it! Great words, tho! Nice work...
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Well, I just might...lookin at who' all's runnin! But I fear an honest person hasn't much of a chance in that forum!!!! I may do it anyways ,tho! but not a lot of time left...
What struck me was I was going to start out my note sarcastically..as you did, then serious...but you beat me to it! Great words, tho! Nice work...
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Aww...thank you! But dude, I'm starting to get freaked...someone else who thinks just like me! LOL...
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I was thinking, that it doesn't really matter what anybody else thinks. You are what you are and you should be proud of that. What runs in your blood goes through your heart. You just need to be strong and believe in yourself. Some people will claim that they don't care but it is these same people who will call you a wannabe at Indian gatherings. They also look at you like you're an embarrassment if you try to participate in our gatherings. These are the same people who will say some of their best friends are 1/2 and 1/2. I know this because I have cousins who have gone through a lot of garbage from some of our relatives that live on our rez. Its like they aren't as good an Indian because of their blood quantum. My wife is also 1/2 and 1/2. We have gone to Powwows and she has been frowned at and you can see the way some people don't like her because she isn't a pure blood or some other garbage term that people use to make themselves look and feel better. Many people are just having a bad life and they think that by bringing somebody else down it will somehow improve their lot in life. I believe you should be proud of both roots. I am 3/4 Coast Salish and 1/4 Nez Perce. Some of the people in our community think they are better because all of their ancestors came from our territory. They think they know more about the culture due to their being totally from the Coast. Its the same as when we go to Powwows, some people don't like me because I only have part rights to the big drum. The way I figure it, the blood in my veins doesn't know how to separate itself so that I can be totally one way or the other so I have the right to choose what I follow. Just my opinion.
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The only way there could be a problem is if the white parent dominates and the Indian parent lets them. The child loses all Indianess. Even if the child knows he/she is 1/2 Indian, the life lessons that they are taught are different. I imagine it would be very difficult, if/when the time comes that the offspring wants to assert their native heritage. They are always held back somehow from totally grasping their native roots.

BTW, turtlespirit, do you also feel that the white people respect you and consider you as one of their own? I guess it would depend on what characteristics you inherited, right?
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What do you think about people like me, that are half white and half indian???
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It all depends which half is Indian.

Is it the top-half, bottom-half, front, back, inside or outside?

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"Blood quantum doesnt' make a person Indian."

I went to college with several full-bloods who were only Indian when it was time to get their tribal scholarships. Any other time they seemed ashamed of their Indianness. Is this being Indian?

Go figure?
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