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Old 02-23-2007, 07:20 PM   #1
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i am australian but will be adopted as a cherokee this year

Hi My Name Is Running Waters And I Am Australian But Are To Be Adopted As A Cherokee In July,07 When I Return Back To Usa.

At Present I Am Living In Australia Since Feb 06, As I Was With My Husband Who Passed On The 29th January,2007 From Rectum Cancer Which He Had Since August,05.

I Was In Usa In Feb-march05,june05-aug05,dec05-feb-06
But Each Time As The Adoption Grew Closer I Had To Rush Back Because Of My Late Husband Illness.

I Was Able To Be Involved In Three Cherokee Sweats But I Was Not Able To See Any Pow Wows Which I Will Do So In July,2007, As I Want To Feel The Beautiful Atmosphere Of The Songs, And The Music And The Beautiful Clothing.

I Practice Tradional Native Ways Mainly Cherokee As My Male Cherokee Friend Who I Have Known Since Oct 04 Is An Elder.

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..Alllright....I see where this is headed.Let's not start pickin' on the Aussie about the Cherokee thing and cause an International incident.I just hope the Elder doing the adopting is legit and honest in his intentions.As for you,miss,good luck in your endeavours and I commend your efforts in learning more about Native peoples....learn all you can and make sure what you learn is proper and respectful....keep smilin'1
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i think the adoption thing is cute, way over used, but cute.
i guess i just take the whole making of relatives a bit more seriously than others.
i wonder if this aussie knows how this whole thing works or if she just skimmed over that chapter in tha black elk book
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I like that one! lol
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i think the adoption thing is cute, way over used, but cute.
i guess i just take the whole making of relatives a bit more seriously than others.
i wonder if this aussie knows how this whole thing works or if she just skimmed over that chapter in tha black elk book
I agree with my friend Flutemaker, Adoption and family are taken very seriously, those are very special bonds ,not to treated lightly. Always take care of family no matter what.
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I agree with my friend Flutemaker, Adoption and family are taken very seriously, those are very special bonds ,not to treated lightly. Always take care of family no matter what.
I AM TAKING IT VERY SEROUS OK, MY CHEROKEE ELDER AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR OVER 2 AND HALF YEARS AN, AND WE BOTH WANTED THIS AND THOUGH I HAVE NO RED BLOOD IN ME, I WILL BECOME A WHITE CHEROKEE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT AND ALWAYS BE PROUD OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN RACE. I HAVE CHOOSEN THIS PATH SINCE 1 WAS 11-13 YEARS OLD.

I ALSO TAKE CARE OF THE FAMILY I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF HIM WHEN HE DIED AND CAME BACK, AND ALSO MY LATE HUSBAND WHO PASSED ON WITH RECTUM CANCER AND I WAS THERE FOR HIM 24 HOURS A DAY AND SAW HE PASS ON. MY LATE MOTHER HAD PARKINSON DISEASE AND I WAS THERE FOR HER ALSO.

I AM 58YEARS OLD AND I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MY FAMILY.



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I AM TAKING IT VERY SEROUS OK, MY CHEROKEE ELDER AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR OVER 2 AND HALF YEARS AN, AND WE BOTH WANTED THIS AND THOUGH I HAVE NO RED BLOOD IN ME, I WILL BECOME A WHITE CHEROKEE AND WILL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT AND ALWAYS BE PROUD OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN RACE. I HAVE CHOOSEN THIS PATH SINCE 1 WAS 11-13 YEARS OLD.

I ALSO TAKE CARE OF THE FAMILY I HAVE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF HIM WHEN HE DIED AND CAME BACK, AND ALSO MY LATE HUSBAND WHO PASSED ON WITH RECTUM CANCER AND I WAS THERE FOR HIM 24 HOURS A DAY AND SAW HE PASS ON. MY LATE MOTHER HAD PARKINSON DISEASE AND I WAS THERE FOR HER ALSO.

I AM 58YEARS OLD AND I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MY FAMILY.



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UUUMMM ok, all I said was take care of family, sounds as if your tring to pick someting with me, sorry if im wrong but beware if you are I pick back.
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Adoption amongst native people usually occurs when a person lives, breathes and thinks nothing else but the welfare of the family that may adopt them and......... vice versa. That bond has to be there. A family bond. It happens over a period of many years. It doesn't happen just because someone wants it.
If there ever was a conflict such as a land dispute conflict with a level of government ( even the U.S. gov't) that turned violent, the adoptee would have to stand by the nation even to the point of sacrificing their life for the tribe. This has happened and yes, it could still happen. Even if the violent confrontation gets resolved, the adoptee could be charged with treason by the government. Not standing up for the nation means exile and shunning by the tribe. You must be prepared for that. Adoption means complete absorption into the nation. In almost every nation, the prospective adoptee must learn the language before even being considered. Saying hello, thank you, see you later, counting, saying all my children in the particular language does not count. Complete absorption. That's what counts.
No, I'm not Cherokee. I don't even know how to say the native name in their language. Although I'm a full-blood Anishinaabe, I don't qualify for adoption into their tribe.

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UUUMMM ok, all I said was take care of family, sounds as if your tring to pick someting with me, sorry if im wrong but beware if you are I pick back.
No i thought you were picking on me ok and as my late husband has passed on just recently you can understand i am very fragile at this time, as he meant the world to me, and i had to watch him getting worse in pain (from rectum cancer) and i was with him 24 hours a day and when he passed over.

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Adoption amongst native people usually occurs when a person lives, breathes and thinks nothing else but the welfare of the family that may adopt them and......... vice versa. That bond has to be there. A family bond. It happens over a period of many years. It doesn't happen just because someone wants it.
If there ever was a conflict such as a land dispute conflict with a level of government ( even the U.S. gov't) that turned violent, the adoptee would have to stand by the nation even to the point of sacrificing their life for the tribe. This has happened and yes, it could still happen. Even if the violent confrontation gets resolved, the adoptee could be charged with treason by the government. Not standing up for the nation means exile and shunning by the tribe. You must be prepared for that. Adoption means complete absorption into the nation. In almost every nation, the prospective adoptee must learn the language before even being considered. Saying hello, thank you, see you later, counting, saying all my children in the particular language does not count. Complete absorption. That's what counts.
No, I'm not Cherokee. I don't even know how to say the native name in their language. Although I'm a full-blood Anishinaabe, I don't qualify for adoption into their tribe.

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Yes i am ready and yes i would stand up for all First Nations if i have to.



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No i thought you were picking on me ok and as my late husband has passed on just recently you can understand i am very fragile at this time, as he meant the world to me, and i had to watch him getting worse in pain (from rectum cancer) and i was with him 24 hours a day and when he passed over.

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You are in mourning now "means you cry for someone" are you following those traditions as well? Or has you Elder shared with you what happons when we mourn?
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what got me at first was that it sounded like you thought being adopted by a cherokee family made you cherokee.
it doesnt, it only makes you a memer of that family. but ive moved on,now im sickened by the fact that your husbands body is still warm and youre talking about being "a good cherokee wife".
austrailia has its own indiginous people, why not go pretend to be one of them? they've got some way cool traditions too.
it'll save you the airfare and it'll save the real cherokee people the embarssment that is you
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its not a matter of 'if i have to', its not a matter of being there when needed. its 24/7.its all the time with out hessetation. its pure dedication
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