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Old 01-05-2011, 02:04 PM   #1
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seriously, who makes these lists. This is embarrasing. Not a single Blackfoot on this list. Clearly someone who does not powwow came up with this list.
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seriously, who makes these lists. This is embarrasing. Not a single Blackfoot on this list. Clearly someone who does not powwow came up with this list.
The list is gather from nominations.

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I wasn't asked either.... This poll idea is really embarassing for those who actually know what's going on. And don't try to blame others for "not recommending" or "nominating". Either use your own winners lists or do away with this.
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I wasn't asked either.... This poll idea is really embarassing for those who actually know what's going on. And don't try to blame others for "not recommending" or "nominating". Either use your own winners lists or do away with this.
We've done it this way since the beginning.

Next year we will evaluate other methods.
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cause this is important, to the 19 people that voted. That's seems about right....
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Lol but fo reals. I'm sure there was an email sent out that said nominate your faves and if you didn't do it then...do it next time. I know I will b/c urseloria wasn't even on the womens fancy list and that girl is like daddy when it comes to dancing. Been rippin the women since she was 18. And yeah I was disappointed in this list too bc there are a lot of dope dancers that aren't on here. But hey, its like *****n bout the president when u didn't vote...
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Lol but fo reals. I'm sure there was an email sent out that said nominate your faves and if you didn't do it then...do it next time. I know I will b/c urseloria wasn't even on the womens fancy list and that girl is like daddy when it comes to dancing. Been rippin the women since she was 18. And yeah I was disappointed in this list too bc there are a lot of dope dancers that aren't on here. But hey, its like *****n bout the president when u didn't vote...
I've never even checked the email I gave to register to this site.
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that depends on where your bookmark to this site is, and how you get here.
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that depends on where your bookmark to this site is, and how you get here.
Ok here are all the ways we shared this info:
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If you didn't check any of those I'm not sure how else we can notify you.
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Ok here are all the ways we shared this info:
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If you didn't check any of those I'm not sure how else we can notify you.
I don't know if notification is the real issue. Who is qualified to make these decisions? Its a popularity contest clearly, but the problem is, is that most, if not all, including myself, are only aware of certain areas of the powwow world. if someone says that the list should have a Scalplock on it, and you don't know who the Scalplocks are, you are in no position to talk about chicken dancing.

And I yes, we get it, these are the nominees, we know, and we know how you got them. we are just saying your process it is flawed. I guess it may reflect certain peoples ideas about powwows.com. This is not a site for the people on your lists, but for marginal powwowers in the powwow world, people in fringe powwow areas, hobbyists and boy scouts. And those of us that are on here, me included, have created an environment in which the people that could use this site the most, have been marginalized or run off. Off all the people I know on this site, only two are "real powwow people".
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I don't know if notification is the real issue. Who is qualified to make these decisions? Its a popularity contest clearly, but the problem is, is that most, if not all, including myself, are only aware of certain areas of the powwow world. if someone says that the list should have a Scalplock on it, and you don't know who the Scalplocks are, you are in no position to talk about chicken dancing.
I agree the system for this is flawed. I've discussed with several people ways to fix it. If you have some suggestions, please let me know.

For now I'm thinking we'll use a combination of 3 sources for nominations.

1. Nominations from visitors
2. Our contest results database
3. Panel of Pow Wow'ers

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I guess it may reflect certain peoples ideas about powwows.com. This is not a site for the people on your lists, but for marginal powwowers in the powwow world, people in fringe powwow areas, hobbyists and boy scouts.
The first few years of the forums that was true. Probably due to the lack of internet in rural areas. The people that were on the forums were mainly scouts and hobbyists. But not anymore. Judging from the email I receive it is not the scouts and hobbyists in the majority anymore. I used to get lots of emails from Indian people talking about how the scouts are telling them about their own culture. NOW I get emails from scouts and non Natives about how the people on the forum are not very nice to them (usually it is people not understanding NDN humor).

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And those of us that are on here, me included, have created an environment in which the people that could use this site the most, have been marginalized or run off.
Explain this? How do you think the site runs off pow wow people? How can we change it?

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You might want to meet some more people on here! Not sure how you are defining "real powwow people", but we have what I would call pw people, quite a few!

I don't get on the site much on a daily basis now. The time I spend with PowWows.com now involves working with developers working on the next thing (and we have some cool things coming).

wyo_rose is our admin that handles the day to day things on the forum. She's a pw person!

Or how about ndnsooner? He runs the calendar and contest results. He's a pw person!

WhoMe, Captain, Historian, and on and on.
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I agree the system for this is flawed. I've discussed with several people ways to fix it. If you have some suggestions, please let me know.

For now I'm thinking we'll use a combination of 3 sources for nominations.

1. Nominations from visitors
2. Our contest results database
3. Panel of Pow Wow'ers



The first few years of the forums that was true. Probably due to the lack of internet in rural areas. The people that were on the forums were mainly scouts and hobbyists. But not anymore. Judging from the email I receive it is not the scouts and hobbyists in the majority anymore. I used to get lots of emails from Indian people talking about how the scouts are telling them about their own culture. NOW I get emails from scouts and non Natives about how the people on the forum are not very nice to them (usually it is people not understanding NDN humor).



Explain this? How do you think the site runs off pow wow people? How can we change it?



You might want to meet some more people on here! Not sure how you are defining "real powwow people", but we have what I would call pw people, quite a few!

I don't get on the site much on a daily basis now. The time I spend with PowWows.com now involves working with developers working on the next thing (and we have some cool things coming).

wyo_rose is our admin that handles the day to day things on the forum. She's a pw person!

Or how about ndnsooner? He runs the calendar and contest results. He's a pw person!

WhoMe, Captain, Historian, and on and on.

I'm going to bite my tongue here, and just go along with you, I've been told to be nice. So I will go be nice now.
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If you have suggestions, comments, etc please let me know. If I don't know about it, I can't change or fix it.

Civility is always appreciated but I want to hear your answers to the questions I posed.
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Why is there even a need for a "Best of..." Polls?

Less Internet shenanigans and more pow wowing.

This site is stagnant.

Only semi useful item on this site is the calendar, and even that is heavily laden with suspect pow wows.

I gotta go pack my bags. Brandon is happening this weekend.
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Why is there even a need for a "Best of..." Polls?

Less Internet shenanigans and more pow wowing.

This site is stagnant.

Only semi useful item on this site is the calendar, and even that is heavily laden with suspect pow wows.

I gotta go pack my bags. Brandon is happening this weekend.
If it is stagnant, post something new!

You control the content of the forums.
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