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Old 05-03-2012, 09:59 AM   #1
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Claims Native to get "invited to luncheons"

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/pol...eid=1061128808

Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, said today she enrolled herself as a minority in law school directories for nearly a decade because she hoped to meet other people with tribal roots.

I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened."

Warren "claims" 1/32 Cherokee. Surprised?
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"...people who are like I am." Huh? She makes it sound like a support group for amputees or something.

The editorials on this are pretty distressing too. Smoke signals, "racial spoils racket", Pocahontas, casinos, Dances With Wolves style names, Great Spirit, on the reservation, off the reservation, per-caps.... Let's use the full stereotype lexicon. It beats a real discussion of the issues.

Howie Carr on Warren

Michael Graham on Warren

So we have another Ward Churchill-esque incident. A big media hype over someone who has very publicly appropriated Native identity. All the talking head playing one-upmanship with the clever use of dominant culture "Indian" tropes. In the end, the mainstream culture looks askance at those who claim Indian identity: "Are they real?" "They're only doing it for the money, position, tenure, etc." "Indian gains are our losses." "Indian is just a racket."

As a result, Native people, particularly those who don't fit the narrow phenotype of "real Indian", are viewed as inauthentic. And those who are visibly non-white are viewed with a deep, often subconscious distrust. After all "they're getting (insert the goodie of your choice) only because of their skin color." So next time, there is legislative issue about tribal rights, the perceived lack of authenticity and crookedness enters in. See the recent fight over provisions of the VAWA that would expand jurisdiction of the tribal courts over non-Indians in certain crimes.
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1/32 is not accurate what the guy wrote was that she is 1/32 of the total Ancestry of that Descendant.

Truly the problem is that she was allowed and used the minority card to her advantage she was couaght and now trying to Legitmize her claim
They cannot, although posted last Friday that a "Marriage Document" was found that listed her Ancestor as Cherokee when they looked at the original Document no Race was listed. BTW that document is suspect because OKLAHOMA was not a STATE untill 1907!
This document was from 1892 umm sounds like somebody dont know there History. If she was in fact Cherokee she would have been married at one of the 9 district Court Houses and btw they dont list Race because if you were married there you would be a citizen!!! Since she was not that means she was not CHEROKEE!!
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1/32 is not accurate what the guy wrote was that she is 1/32 of the total Ancestry of that Descendant.

Truly the problem is that she was allowed and used the minority card to her advantage she was couaght and now trying to Legitmize her claim
They cannot, although posted last Friday that a "Marriage Document" was found that listed her Ancestor as Cherokee when they looked at the original Document no Race was listed. BTW that document is suspect because OKLAHOMA was not a STATE untill 1907!
This document was from 1892 umm sounds like somebody dont know there History. If she was in fact Cherokee she would have been married at one of the 9 district Court Houses and btw they dont list Race because if you were married there you would be a citizen!!! Since she was not that means she was not CHEROKEE!!
That was a KO!
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1/32 is not accurate what the guy wrote was that she is 1/32 of the total Ancestry of that Descendant.

Truly the problem is that she was allowed and used the minority card to her advantage she was couaght and now trying to Legitmize her claim
They cannot, although posted last Friday that a "Marriage Document" was found that listed her Ancestor as Cherokee when they looked at the original Document no Race was listed. BTW that document is suspect because OKLAHOMA was not a STATE untill 1907!
This document was from 1892 umm sounds like somebody dont know there History. If she was in fact Cherokee she would have been married at one of the 9 district Court Houses and btw they dont list Race because if you were married there you would be a citizen!!! Since she was not that means she was not CHEROKEE!!
I think they felt that force of that argument all the way back in Boston, LOL!

I like what OLC said, too. I can't tell you how many times I have had people ask me if I "get free college" or "don't have to pay taxes" because I'm Indian.

Never had anybody ask me if I get invited to any luncheons, though.
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1/32 is not accurate what the guy wrote was that she is 1/32 of the total Ancestry of that Descendant.

Truly the problem is that she was allowed and used the minority card to her advantage she was couaght and now trying to Legitmize her claim
They cannot, although posted last Friday that a "Marriage Document" was found that listed her Ancestor as Cherokee when they looked at the original Document no Race was listed. BTW that document is suspect because OKLAHOMA was not a STATE untill 1907!
This document was from 1892 umm sounds like somebody dont know there History. If she was in fact Cherokee she would have been married at one of the 9 district Court Houses and btw they dont list Race because if you were married there you would be a citizen!!! Since she was not that means she was not CHEROKEE!!
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We had a similar politician up here claim she was also 1/32 Cherokee.

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"There are few women of color who hold important positions in the academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or industries.

This is not inconsequential. Diversifying these arenas, in part by adding qualified women of color to their ranks, remains important for many reasons. For one, there are scant women of color as role models. In my three years at Stanford Law School, there were no professors who were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."

Woman of color? Hmmm....
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Give me the Popcorn this is going to be good!!!

Cherokee genealogist to Elizabeth Warren Tell the truth
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/05...ell-the-truth/

Warren's Cherokee Claim Based on Family Newsletter; No Marriage License Application to Be Found!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...on-to-be-found
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Fox News picked up Story Today!!

Good Friend and Great Cherokee Genealogist that has actually looked into this woman's claim and found ZERO Evidence!!

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I read that some her ancestors may have actually been involved in moving NDNs off their lands.
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I read that some her ancestors may have actually been involved in moving NDNs off their lands.
Yeah I read the same thing, Twila Barnes said that the parents of this OC Smith were in the Tennessee Militia but can't confirm if they were in the Militia at the time of removal...
Actually that would be ironic!!!
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Had I only known I could get free meals for being ~1/32 Cherokee...

All I got was in state tuition at Arkansas! (Which I happily accepted.)
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ITs not the 1/32nd Degree which by the way Cherokees don't use!!! Its the fact that this woman has no direct or indirect Indian ancestry just family stories. It has been showed to her and still refuses to change her story and is holding onto her claim like grim death. If you like check this out: http://www.pollysgranddaughter.com/
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Had I only known I could get free meals for being ~1/32 Cherokee...

All I got was in state tuition at Arkansas! (Which I happily accepted.)
too dark, you'd never pass for apretendian. lol
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This website is full of people with just enough to "claim"....how is this surprising to anyone!?
I personally believe in BEING, rather than CLAIMING....
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I personally believe in BEING, rather than CLAIMING....
Now that's interesting.

Here's a rhetorical query for you: how can you be something without claiming it?

Are you implying that, fundamentally, what you are is not tied to a quantifiable property?
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I'm Oglala Lakota...I dont ever have to publicly CLAIM my heritage, I'm to busy BEING Lakota to worry about all that
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Originally Posted by LakotaWi73 View Post
I'm Oglala Lakota...I dont ever have to publicly CLAIM my heritage, I'm to busy BEING Lakota to worry about all that
But what makes you Lakota? You can't "be" without a "claim."

It's an important question.
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