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Old 04-12-2013, 04:11 AM   #21
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In sum, he bought it from a Hopi.

Don't blame the owner or the auction.
i dont think any pueblo would sell these.....dont know how they were obtained.....and if by chance it was a hopi who had access to them or sold them i really doubt he did this with permission/blessing from ANYONE in his tribes.........i should know....pueblos are too scared to pul off a stunt like that unles youre telling me there were meth heads and crack fiends in early part of last century
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i dont think any pueblo would sell these...
And yet they were "legally obtained?"
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And yet they were "legally obtained?"
well....that claim is always dubious to me.....sorry zeke.....sometimes i get a little faithless when it comes to non-indians
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In sum, he bought it from a Hopi.

Don't blame the owner or the auction.
If he/she is the seller, or I guess you would blame the Hopi selling them!
ATTENTION! There is not just 1 mask, but 70 ! ! ! !
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I'm sorry for all who have protested!!!
The auction has started and the 1th. mask was sold for 3 000 € !

The person selling all these masks will become rich on the cost of the Hopi.
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I'm sorry for all who have protested!!!
The auction has started and the 1th. mask was sold for 3 000 € !

The person selling all these masks will become rich on the cost of the Hopi.
Figures.

Money usually wins out.
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Figures.

Money usually wins out.
Yep that right!!
On a side note my friend runs a native american craft store in town and he sells Ojibwe pipes too.
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One of the mask was sold for 160 000 € !!!!!!!
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One of the mask was sold for 160 000 € !!!!!!!
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Yep that right!!
On a side note my friend runs a native american craft store in town and he sells Ojibwe pipes too.
are ojibwe pipes deeply religious? if so you should punch your friend in the face....if not....who cares
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YES, 160 000 € for ONE mask. The 70 masks was sold for a total of 931,000 € !!!!!!!

Hopi Masks Sold: Sacred Tribal Artifacts Off In Paris Following Controversial Court Ruling
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are ojibwe pipes deeply religious? if so you should punch your friend in the face....if not....who cares
violence dosen't solve anything. I get many answers about this ? all the time. I dno't ask that none of my business I keep my nose out of it.
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I guess you would blame the Hopi selling them!
And now we get the the bottom line...
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well i would hope no pueblo would do this.....but who knows...."morality" is the scam of america......we cant afford to be moral
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After 'Shameful' Auction in Paris, Sacred Katsinam Returned to Hopis

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One of the Hopi katsinam connected to a controversial Parisian auction in April has come home to the Hopi people.

In a story that captivated ICTMN readers and many in the auction business, some 70 sacred objects, most of them Hopi katsinam, were sold by the auction house Neret-Minet Tessier & Sarrou. The sale proceeded despite strenuous objections from the Hopi tribe and a last-minute legal attempt to stop (or at least delay) it by the group Survival International. That challenge was argued, unsuccessfuly, by lawyer Pierre Servan-Schreiber.

The scene in the auction house was described by one of those present as "heartbreaking." Hopi tribal chairman LeRoy N. Shingoitewa called it a "shameful saga."

RELATED: "Attorney for the Hopi Katsinam:
A Conversation with Pierre Servan-Schreiber"

Servan-Schreiber bought one of the katsinam (commonly referred to by non-Natives as "masks") with the intention of returning it. In a release, Survival Internetional reported that Servan-Schriber and Hopi leaders came together for a handover ceremony over the weekend.

"It is my way of telling the Hopi that we only lost a battle and not the war," Servan-Schreiber said. "I am convinced that in the future, those who believe that not everything should be up for sale will prevail. In the meantime, the Hopi will not have lost everything."

Another katsinam, purchased in memory of the French-American pop singer Joe Dassin, will also be returned to the Hopi.


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After 'Shameful' Auction in Paris, Sacred Katsinam Returned to Hopis

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One of the Hopi katsinam connected to a controversial Parisian auction in April has come home to the Hopi people.

In a story that captivated ICTMN readers and many in the auction business, some 70 sacred objects, most of them Hopi katsinam, were sold by the auction house Neret-Minet Tessier & Sarrou. The sale proceeded despite strenuous objections from the Hopi tribe and a last-minute legal attempt to stop (or at least delay) it by the group Survival International. That challenge was argued, unsuccessfuly, by lawyer Pierre Servan-Schreiber.

The scene in the auction house was described by one of those present as "heartbreaking." Hopi tribal chairman LeRoy N. Shingoitewa called it a "shameful saga."

RELATED: "Attorney for the Hopi Katsinam:
A Conversation with Pierre Servan-Schreiber"

Servan-Schreiber bought one of the katsinam (commonly referred to by non-Natives as "masks") with the intention of returning it. In a release, Survival Internetional reported that Servan-Schriber and Hopi leaders came together for a handover ceremony over the weekend.

"It is my way of telling the Hopi that we only lost a battle and not the war," Servan-Schreiber said. "I am convinced that in the future, those who believe that not everything should be up for sale will prevail. In the meantime, the Hopi will not have lost everything."

Another katsinam, purchased in memory of the French-American pop singer Joe Dassin, will also be returned to the Hopi.


Read more at After 'Shameful' Auction in Paris, Sacred Katsinam Returned to Hopis - ICTMN.com
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The Pop Star and the Hopi Katsinam: A Little Help From Joe Dassin
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