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Old 06-18-2014, 11:55 AM   #1
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US Patent Office Cancels "Redskins" Trademarks

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The U.S. Patent Office has canceled trademarks belonging to the Redskins football team, saying they are offensive to Native Americans.

In a decision released Wednesday, the office's Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled that "these registrations must be canceled because they were disparaging to Native Americans."

Continue Reading: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks - Jun. 18, 2014
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Yeah, but they still get to use it while they appeal the decision. It's a step in the right direction, though.
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QUOTE. We are the Reservation Rats, a group of fullbloods who speak our
language fluently and volunteer and live on Indian reservations. When
we were an active group, we used to fight drugs and gangs on Indian
reservations. Please pay attention to #11 below.

Almost 20 years ago, grandpa met a little white boy dressed up as an
Indian on Halloween. The boy gave a squeal of delight when he spotted
grandpa and asked, "Are you a real Native American??!!!??"

"Yes," smiled grandpa, a former Medicine Man, "just like you are one
today! But I don't look half as handsome as you do."

"Well, what can you teach me about being Indian?" asked the little boy
earnestly.

"This," said grandpa. Then he took his pack of cigarettes from this
pocket and threw it in the trash can. "These are very bad for your
health. As an Indian today, you have to always keep your word, so
promise me you will never smoke in your life."

"I promise!!!" said the little boy as his parents mouthed thank you to grandpa.

About 20 years later, I meet this blondie at Yale University who
called herself Native American and waved her card at my face to prove
it, even though I never asked her to show me any card or to prove her
Indian status. The blondie recounted her own experience when she came
across a little boy who was dressed up as an Indian on Halloween. She
said, "I went up to him, ripped up the feathers he was wearing. Then I
told his mom - I am Native American and I am NOT a costume! You should
be ashamed of yourself for being such a RACIST!! Then I marched away
leaving behind a shocked mother and her equally shocked son who will
hopefully never play Indian again. They learned their lesson well!"

If the moral of the story isn't already apparent to you, it's this:
These elite, highly educated, sophisticated Ivy League white blondes
and blondies who are Native American only on paper don't realize that
their behavior of screaming racism where there is none, and protesting
innocent things like mascots and Halloween, is making the rest of
America hate Indians and is portraying us as super-super-sensitive.
When we are the exact opposite: Indians are extremely loving, very
tolerant, highly accepting and have the most amazing sense of humor.

There is a saying on reservations that only whiteskins object to
redskin because it reminds everyone that these Indians are white.

Mainstream Indians on reservations support mascots and names like
Redskins. A UPenn-Annenberg survey shows that 91% of Indians support
mascots (http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycent...s_09-24_pr.pdf).
Our reasons for supporting mascots are briefly included below

1) When white Indians offend sports fans or insult a little child who
loves Indians and puts on feathers, they alienate the rest of America
against brown Indians. Note that the white Indians blend in
beautifully into the white society. No one even realizes they are
Indian. But when an angered sports fan who is upset about losing his
mascot screams "**** you sandnigger" or throws a beer can at us from a
passing car screaming "MOTHER****ER, GO BACK TO YOUR ****ING
RESERVATION!!" they scream such obscenities at my father, my cousin,
my brother and my family members who look Indian.

2) The obsession with protesting mascots and names like Redskins is an
obsession of white Indians. They protest mascots, children dressing up
on Halloween and other silly things because it makes them feel Indian.
It lets them scream racism. They know no other way of feeling Indian.
They are totally disconnected from the real issues that affect
mainstream Indians on reservations. They are fully Americanized. They
have lost their language, culture, religion and even their skin color.

3) Unfortunately the white Indians have the loudest voices. If we go
against them, they hurt us in our careers and lives because they
control our media, academia, government jobs, medical clinics,
finances, who gets denied federal recognition, even our tribes -
everything. They have the money and the power. We have the
Indian-ness.

4) Brown Indians on reservations have more important issues to worry
about. Like diabetes, how we get our next meal, crime on reservations,
lack of electricity, lack of toilets, lack of running water, no heat
when there's snow outside, getting a relative to a dialysis clinic
when there is no transport, finding a job when there's near 100%
unemployment, near 100% consideration of suicide among our youth,
alcoholism, drug abuse, elder abuse, spouse abuse, land loss, culture
loss, language loss, etc. Mascots are a NON-ISSUE to us.

5) The Indian media should be screaming about the real issues. Instead
their main focus is on mascots. The focus on mascots and meaningless
debates about redskins detract attention from the REAL issues facing
brown Indians.

6) Indians should do an A-B-C analysis and focus on the A-items.
Mascots and names like redskin, or debates about whether the right
word is Native American and not Indian, are not even C items. They are
Z items. Unfortunately the white Indians obsess over these Z-items
because that is the ONLY way they know how to feel Indian. If we twist
America's arm and get America to concede on the trivial items, the
country will lose patience with us when we negotiate important
A-items.

7) We are offending our fan base. That little child who insists on
dressing up in a costume and putting on some feathers loves Indians,
but when white Indians insult his mom and dad by calling them racists,
he grows up to resent those of us who look Indian. Indians were
unflappable. Now even a silly word like "costume" that I used above
instead of "regalia" raises hackles? Don't forget, it's the white
Indians who come down and tell the rest of us to be offended.

8) When these white Indians object to mascots, their vocalizations
unite Indian opposition - the opposition finds forums and avenues to
kindle hatred against Indians and rehash and reiterate hateful
sentiments about Indians. They find a common ground under which those
who resent and oppose Indians can unify together and gather in
strength.

9) White Indians who oppose mascots point to the Halloween "blackface"
and ask, "Don't you find that offensive???" And the answer is yes,
some Halloween costumes are expressly intended to mock and degrade.
Sometimes it is Mother Mary dressed up voluptuously in revealing
breasts, sometimes stupid people dress up as a rabbi with a hooked
nose eating a bagel and counting money. Sometimes people put on a
black face that portrays African Americans with exaggerated noses and
large pink lips. Yes, these are no doubt offensive. But mascots
usually portray teams that their fans are proud of. The Washington
Redskins are proud of their mascots and will surely never run down
their mascot this way.

10) The American sports lovers are our brothers and sisters. We love
them and respect them and also understand they mean us no disrespect
for the most part. Mascots represent their teams and sports fans love
their teams. The clueless, identity-less white Indians drive a wedge
between the mainstream Indians and sports loving fans causing
mainstream America to hate us.

11) The vocal protests of these clueless white Indians have one more
serious consequence: those of us who are poor, brown and
Indian-looking cannot sell our Native art. Think about this for a
moment. If Blacks made a huge deal about appropriation of African
Americans, won't you pause for a moment before you buy a t-shirt with
a black theme? These days because of all these protests over mascots
and Halloween, Americans have become so sensitive about offending
Natives that they are afraid of wearing Native jewelry and buying
Native art pieces. Because they don't want to offend Natives who
protest redskins and other forms or "appropriations". Which is really
hurting Native artisans who make such jewelry and Native art.

12) In the same vein, it is only the white Indians who obsess about
identity politics and play Identity Police. On Indian reservations, we
have a standing joke:

Q: What do you call a nation full of white people?
A: The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

The all-white Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma is the leading identity
police. They have also been whites for quite a few generations now!
Why is it that only the white Indians obsess about identity politics
and play Identity Police? This is because such Indians are mistaken
for Caucasian throughout the world. One way they can reiterate their
sense of identity is by pointing out that "he is not Indian" or "she
is not Indian" or "they are wannabes." Indians have been through a
holocaust and accusing someone of not being Indian is a very serious
charge and something to be frowned upon, as is discriminating against
Indians from tribes that have no federal recognition (the PC term is
unrepresented tribes). What is noteworthy is that it is always the
white Indians who play identity cops. Look at anyone who is accusing
someone of not being Indian. With the possible exception of XXXX XXXXX
(an identity cop who is African American with Indian status), almost
all the other identity police are WHITE themselves. Such whites with
Indian status get their sense of identity by accusing others of not
being Indian.

P.S. So many, many of our all-Indian high schools have teams with the
word redskin. If the word "redskin" was offensive, why would we be
singing this???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMopAla8ZPs These are
the lyrics:

"Take a look
Just one more time
Beautiful smile
Beautiful eyes
That's a redskin girl
Shes so pretty
Shes so fine
Redskin girl
I'll love you all the time"

~ The Reservation Rats UNQUOTE
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I'll take your name (one time poster) at face value.

1. You're an elitist fool.
2. Racist.
3. What's wrong with Native society.

That said, you are correct that there are better things to do than fight about mascots. Step One is minimizing the impact of idiots like you.
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Yeah, but they still get to use it while they appeal the decision. It's a step in the right direction, though.

Please note, that the loss of their trademark, only means loss of revenue from licensing fees. They would lose one legal means of combatting fringing merchandise. It does not forbid its use, before during or after appeal, win or lose.

Do we have a US IP attorneys on here? @yaahl how's your US IP law background? Can they still claim copyright on the artwork and prosecute under copyright infringement?

Since NFL licensing revenues are shared this will mitigate direct loss to the DC team.
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Good point^^^, OLChemist.
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Well, looks like the Washington Redskin issue may finally be settled, but don't expect Snyder to go down without a fight, it may be tied up in the court system now and privileged America couldnít be any more pissed about it. And here is why. They lost the trademark on the name. Bootlegging will now be allowed unconfronted resulting in cash loss. GOOD! they had a good run of almost 80years, they really have nothing to complain about.

I heard it all before....how "you guys have bigger problems" and "you should focus on alcoholism and suicide and conditions on the rez" "and what would a name change really affect in your life?" and things like that....and guess what, people that say this are absolutely right......I totally agree as someone who identifies as American Indian....BUT when it comes from a non-Indian it comes from a different place.....regardless of whether it's true or not it comes from a place of privilege.

Since i first got the internet in 1999 i read the issue over and over again, same article by different authors. After awhile I'm like "I get it, redskins and mascots aint cool, blah blah blah".....and I'm saying this as someone who always identifies as American Indian as well as a Chicano who was tired of hearing about it. BUT that is not where the eye opening starts, on every major news outlet it may reach, the real battle is always in the comments sections. all the non-Indians telling Indians that they have no right being upset, that they are being "honored" and they should feel proud and how it's not a big deal, and some of them even acknowledge that it isnít cool but that Washington redskins are their favorite team and that they will support them ANYWAYS, last but not least is the occasional asshole that always shows up claiming they have some distant Indian ancestory (most likely just family lore) and says that he/she is ok with the derogatory name. Then that is all the fuel he non-Indians need to say "see, Indians are really ok with it, why donít you follow suit!".......gives me a ****in headache reading all the comments from the peanut gallery. Then it hits me.....this particular peanut gallery is quite large. Nobody really gives a **** about us unless they are in the mood for some romanticism on what we are "supposed" to be like in their little box of an idea they want to put us in. We are less than 1% of the USA population now, maybe just around 1% when you count legitimate non-enrolled Indians. Sad that 500years ago we were 100% of the population. But what the peanut gallery really taught me through the comment sections is that racism is alive and well against red in the USA. Non-Indians defend their right to insult us with great enthusiasm.

Look at what we have seen over the last month. We seen Donald Sterling shamed at racist remarks and punished promptly. It was all settled in a weeks time. Last year we saw Paula Deen boycotted for significantly less on something she did 20 years prior. Then we turn around and see that on relative that we all have fighting to end the name of Redskins for 40 ****IN YEARS with no results except ridicule. Being called a PC liberal, anti-American, crybabies and even accused of being racist ourselves because we donít like it. Then they say this contry and all of it's freeoms are going down the tubes because we are finally gaining support. Defending privilege as they would defend life itself. We have a different reality than the rest of America. Say what you will but a different reality exists for us because there is no way it would have took 40 years to deal with Donald Sterling. That is what is waking up more Natives than ever right now. Our place in America is increasingly more obvious. What was once a miniscule issue to me in the past is now much bigger. Especially after we as Natives seen how much we have been ignored after the Donald Sterling scandal played out. I am happy to now be counted among those who I always thought were Indians with too much time on their hands.

I never had been much an AIM guy. Though I agree with most of the message of AIM I would never join AIM because I know many of their secrets, and I could never "tow the party line". But that did not stop me from going to the memorial of a close friend of my mom and grandfather, Russell Means, at my old high school, Lincoln High.Who used to pop in for dinner occasionally when I was younger, and stored some teepee poles in our backyard for a few years at the house I grew up in. During that memorial Glenn Morris took the stage. The very first thing he said was a lesson that Russell taught. Russell said "Never beat around the bush and downplay the Redskin's name. You tell people itís like saying NIGGER! It's like saying KIKE! Do not downplay by saying it sounds like the n-word. Let people get the full effect!". I have to say, after thinking about it, Russell Means was right. Saying "Redskin" is not like saying the "n-word". Saying "Redskin" is like saying NIGGER!

Recently there has been a commercial aired. Since January it has shown all over the country starting with a slot during the Superbowl. Millions were spent on airtime by Natives. Millions that could have gone elsewhere. But we arenít afforded that luxury. No other race in the country had to do this. Blacks did not have to buy airtime to educate America not to call them Niggers. Jews didnít need to buy airtime to educate America not to call them Kikes. Asians didnít need to buy airtime to educate America not to call them Chinks. Even gays, who are NOT a race didnít need to buy airtime to educate America not to call them faggots. The word Redskin is accepted as non-offensive due to institutional racism. I know, I knowÖ.someone is going to say ďwell what about the Fighting Irish?Ē. To them I say ask the Irish community. If they do not like the Irish mascot than I will support them too. The point is that YOU donít get to decide what is offensive to US. And if we do decide we donít like something it is not good taste to scour the Indian community to find ONE Indian who isnít offended to parade around as a justification to continue. That is not being objective, that is just being an asshole and flaunting your privilege. Please spare me the argument of how you are ďhonoringĒ us.

If I coached a PAL team called the Westwood Wetbacks with a mascot wearing a sombrero, the Montbello Niggers with white cheerleaders in blackface singing Mammy, The Avondale Kikes with official press-on beards and yulimikas or the Bear Valley Chinks selling rice as the official team snack, there would be a lynch mob outside my door. People would ensure I stayed unemployed and publicly shamed for years to come. Mr. Snyder, I ask you humbly as one human being to another, please quit being an asshole, change your teamís name or I will see you in the playoffs with MY team.
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