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Old 08-16-2010, 11:20 PM   #1
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Desecration...or...unique?

Hello Everyone,

I'm quite familiar with the history and origins of the chicken dance category. I'm switching from traditional to chicken and want to know what you think. Because this dance is considered a traditional dance, I know their are certain ethics and protocol to it. My question is, would it be, in your opinion, okay to wear a feathered hat (made of eagle) with two pheasant feathers on the top.

My main ideas when I first thought about it was the fact that many chicken dancers use bright and neon colors, which are a variation and a modern twist to the old style dancing (which I'm sure are frowned upon by some anyhow).

Thoughts?
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Hello Everyone,

I'm quite familiar with the history and origins of the chicken dance category. I'm switching from traditional to chicken and want to know what you think. Because this dance is considered a traditional dance, I know their are certain ethics and protocol to it. My question is, would it be, in your opinion, okay to wear a feathered hat (made of eagle) with two pheasant feathers on the top.

My main ideas when I first thought about it was the fact that many chicken dancers use bright and neon colors, which are a variation and a modern twist to the old style dancing (which I'm sure are frowned upon by some anyhow).

Thoughts?
Current chicken protocol has the roach as the approved headdress. Since chicken has a very strong "traditional" base in Alberta, you may run into problems/issues if you attempt to deviate from the accepted headdress. I can only think of one chicken dancer who does not wear a roach (he wear's a top hat). "Traditional" dances have always been colorful, don't assume "pink" is modern ("flourescent pink" might be, but it is still in the pink family and thus traditional).

Depending on the chicken traditons you follow, certain feathers may or may not be allowed. I suggest before you switch that you interact more with true chickens and learn about the traditons of the dance. I believe that you will learn from them that it is not your place to innovate. But, you never know, but you should ask and learn first.
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would it be, in your opinion, okay to wear a feathered hat (made of eagle) with two pheasant feathers on the top.


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I am from the blackfeet tribe of browning and our confederacy of tribes reaches across the us/canada border. I believe feather hats come from around the mandan area. You typed that you were familiar with the dance. Then you would know how the people got the dance and it is from a society. We are taught not to wear eagle feathers while chicken dancing. It represents a different bird than the eagle. I wonder if you are dancing for the real purppose or trying to put on a show. just commenting there are no official indians here. oki
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just commenting there are no official indians here. oki
Yeah - just all us unofficial ndnz here on powwows.com
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I am from the blackfeet tribe of browning and our confederacy of tribes reaches across the us/canada border. I believe feather hats come from around the mandan area. You typed that you were familiar with the dance. Then you would know how the people got the dance and it is from a society. We are taught not to wear eagle feathers while chicken dancing. It represents a different bird than the eagle. I wonder if you are dancing for the real purppose or trying to put on a show. just commenting there are no official indians here. oki
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I've met a chicken dancer that wears a top hat, I've never asked him why he wears it. It looks good on him and left it at that. I know a lot of chicken dancers, some are innovative and willing to try out new things or try to bring back some old things. They always look sharp. Then while others stick to a style that they are comfortable with and have the same look year after year. They also look sharp every time you see them dance.

If you want to try something different, do some research, ask somebody or even have a good reason why that you are wearing something. I know with chicken dancers everything that a dancer wears has a meaning, a purpose or is symbolic to them, their tribe, their family or their society. If your gonna ask somebody, by all means ask somebody that is knowledgeable about chicken dance. There are a lot of chicken dancers that don't have a clue about the histories of the dance. I am by know means an expert either, I have a lot of good friends that have shared their knowledge with me.
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I've met a chicken dancer that wears a top hat, I've never asked him why he wears it. It looks good on him and left it at that. I know a lot of chicken dancers, some are innovative and willing to try out new things or try to bring back some old things. They always look sharp. Then while others stick to a style that they are comfortable with and have the same look year after year. They also look sharp every time you see them dance.

If you want to try something different, do some research, ask somebody or even have a good reason why that you are wearing something. I know with chicken dancers everything that a dancer wears has a meaning, a purpose or is symbolic to them, their tribe, their family or their society. If your gonna ask somebody, by all means ask somebody that is knowledgeable about chicken dance. There are a lot of chicken dancers that don't have a clue about the histories of the dance. I am by know means an expert either, I have a lot of good friends that have shared their knowledge with me.
I'd ask that one guy, you know, that one chicken dancer, the one that knows all those other ones, that guy.
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