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gilisi 09-01-2015 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jack2011 (Post 1620736)
Yes (at least, at some powwows).
I have seen (100 %) white, blonde-blue eyed whites..... (100%) Black (born in Trinidad, not 1 drop of NDN blood in him) dance at the Six Nations Pow Wow. Not during the Inter-tribal, but in full regalia during competition.



Yes.
The practice should be outlawed. Why invite whites and othe non-NDN's to to sully the circle.
In fact, why allow whites and others to attend Pow Wows at all.
Pow Wows = for NDN's only. Stamp out Wannabes (these can go to Germany for their Pow Wows).
:omg_smile

So you only have NDN friends then?

subeeds 09-01-2015 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wardancer (Post 1620744)
So I guess you'll have to form some ndn police to decide who's ndn and who isn't........sounds like a purist idea.....hmmmm kinda like Hitler !:hypnotize

No joke, it sounds like Hitler. I'm curious to know how half bloods like me would fit into that grand scheme.

jack2011 09-01-2015 01:09 PM

LOL

Nah, half bloods are still NDN's.

Those whose great, great, great grandmother was a Cherokee princess.....well, different kettle of fish...

jack2011 09-01-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer (Post 1620746)
What happens when they are married to indians are the booted out?

Best to keep those blood lines pure...don't want Custer's blood running in your veins:redface:

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Originally Posted by gilisi (Post 1620749)
So you only have NDN friends then?

I try to avoid whitey like the plague....unless there is something in it for me.:hypocrite

Joe's Dad 09-01-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack2011 (Post 1620736)
Yes (at least, at some powwows).
I have seen (100 %) white, blonde-blue eyed whites..... (100%) Black (born in Trinidad, not 1 drop of NDN blood in him) dance at the Six Nations Pow Wow. Not during the Inter-tribal, but in full regalia during competition.



Yes.
The practice should be outlawed. Why invite whites and othe non-NDN's to to sully the circle.
In fact, why allow whites and others to attend Pow Wows at all.
Pow Wows = for NDN's only. Stamp out Wannabes (these can go to Germany for their Pow Wows).
:omg_smile

Damn white people.

Toolbox 09-01-2015 09:05 PM

You know that powwows are social events and not ceremonies, right?

Serious question, and this isn't being said in a condescending tone. What involvement do you have at powwows? Do you dance, sing, spectate, vend, craft, emcee, etc?

gilisi 09-02-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jack2011 (Post 1620762)
Best to keep those blood lines pure...don't want Custer's blood running in your veins:redface:



I try to avoid whitey like the plague....unless there is something in it for me.:hypocrite

so if a half blood can't find an NDN woman/man, he/she shouldn't procreate? LOL

What about you? You got kidz? just curious....

gilisi 09-02-2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jack2011 (Post 1620762)
I try to avoid whitey like the plague....unless there is something in it for me.:hypocrite


Wear a rubber den

gilisi 09-02-2015 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Toolbox (Post 1620771)
You know that powwows are social events and not ceremonies, right?

Serious question, and this isn't being said in a condescending tone. What involvement do you have at powwows? Do you dance, sing, spectate, vend, craft, emcee, etc?

The highest blood quantum requirement I have seen to get into a powwow was 1/4...

and that's up to the folks who put up the dollars and work to make it happen ennit?

wardancer 09-02-2015 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gilisi (Post 1620780)
The highest blood quantum requirement I have seen to get into a powwow was 1/4...

and that's up to the folks who put up the dollars and work to make it happen ennit?

I was at a powwow onced that asked me for my card.....I showed them my AARP card and they let me right in !:laughing:

Toolbox 09-02-2015 10:21 AM

I was looking at the preregistration form for Hunting Moon powwow and they make no mention of showing any tribal ID card just a valid drivers license or passport and an SS number so Uncle Sam can collect his share if you make over $600.

subeeds 09-03-2015 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jack2011 (Post 1620762)
Best to keep those blood lines pure...don't want Custer's blood running in your veins:redface:

Custer had no children. He did have siblings who had kids. I met his great, great nephew once.


I try to avoid whitey like the plague....unless there is something in it for me.:hypocrite

I know some nice white people. My mom was one of them, and my relatives on her side of the family is full of nice white people. I was raised to judge people by whether they are nice, or a$$hats, not by color.

wardancer 09-03-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by subeeds (Post 1620932)
I know some nice white people. My mom was one of them, and my relatives on her side of the family is full of nice white people. I was raised to judge people by whether they are nice, or a$$hats, not by color.

I would agree with that statement , totally and to the word and apply it equally to myself. I would even go farther and say that my Mom's side were nicer people than most anyone I've ever encountered !

gilisi 09-03-2015 11:16 AM

@subeeds, if you had seen this guys old posts... you would have seen he ain't even NDN.... even a little

spoke about maybe being related to one particular tribe because he is part Asian...

SMH

jack2011 09-03-2015 06:59 PM

memories of Winnipeg:sad_smile

jack2011 09-03-2015 07:18 PM

:thumbsup:

subeeds 09-07-2015 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gilisi (Post 1620934)
@subeeds, if you had seen this guys old posts... you would have seen he ain't even NDN.... even a little

spoke about maybe being related to one particular tribe because he is part Asian...

SMH

I missed those. So I guess this will be me now :tapedshut :lol:

Joe's Dad 09-07-2015 01:37 PM

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AmigoKumeyaay 09-07-2015 05:56 PM

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milehighsalute 10-16-2015 12:18 PM

i personally dont have a problem with white people at powwows as long as they STAY WHITE.....thats all

dance an intertribal, participate in round dance and compete in potato dance, buy some jewelry and eat you sum frybread and introduce us to your yummy white women

my problem is when they decide to become indians, or indian know-it-alls and make themselves some regalia

i know there are a few exceptions....maybe someone who grew up with em or whatever....i work with a guy from tulsa who's best friends and neighbors were pawnees on one side, an otoe family on the other and a ponca family across the street and grew up playing with all their kids and would spend the night, go on trips with them and all shed both tears and blood with them all......now he is about 40yrs old and he knows his boundaries and he probably been to more powwows and ate more ndn tacos than your average ndn....when his buddies from tulsa come visit him he gets really excited and shows up to powwows or ndn events with them......thats a good model for how all white people who find themselves in the "inner circle" should be

i live in denver.....i rarely see white people...contrary to popular belief this is a Hispanic town.....except for at work, white people always run the spots dont they?...its mostly a race war here between chicanos and mexicans (if you dont live in the sw united states i dont expect you to understand).........i pretty much experienced the same thing in reverse........i grew up as a chicano the minute i walked out the door to play with other kids....and why not? i have dark skin and a spanish surname so everyone thinks iam chicano anyways.....this allowed my cousin to apply for both ndn AND hispanic grants for her schooling so its not necessarily a bad thing

i got the best of both worlds and the worst of both worlds.....i know my place though and what lines not to cross and when im supposed to remain an ndn......any non-ndn no matter what the color should do the same at powwows

i know powwow is social, and not all that old of a tradition in the grand scheme of things.....but its STILL our "new tradition" and still OUR culture

no one else has the rights to it......besides all of em have hokey looking regalia


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