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Old 06-19-2013, 02:58 AM   #21
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I know it's not all whites but I was listening to my grandfather, who was a full blooded Lakota talk a few days ago about the massacres that the whites did to us American Indians years ago and it was just SO sad, it made me cry. I didn't get why another race would so such harshness to us. Then I've been reading online how the government are STILL trying to take away the rights of American Indians on reservations....it just baffles me....American Indians are THE most kindest, nicest race I've ever seen and they're always being mistreated and abused. They're THE most abused, ignored and mistreated race and I just don't get why.....It's not fair...
And the whites invented slavery and imported/kidnapped boatloads of indigenous people from another continent to work in their fields. You say "it's not fair". You will learn as you grow older, that very often, life isn't fair regardless of race you are.
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Well, I've been back and forth to Denver lately and have see LOTS of "homeless" on the streets,panhandling at intersections, staggering through downtown....mostly whites (a few of color), young/old, clean/dirty, sober/impaired.

Creeped me out, but it didn't make me think all white people are like that.


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I meant to QUOTE you, not Edit....
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I'm an american indian young girl and I'm half black, but I follow my american indian heritage and ways vigorously. Yet, I don't understand why whites hate american indians so much? what have we done? I have yet to understand this and it makes me so frustrated because so many american indians are in poverty and I want to help them but I can't....I don't know, I guess I just wanted to come here and vent my frustrations and sadness....
Young lass, when I came here stateside there were public signs for "White" drinking fountains, and "Negro" or "Colored" drinking fountains. Same with restrooms, etc.

But...many many years ago in New York City there were signs "No Irish Allowed".


America The Beautiful has an ugly underbelly of racial & ethnic strife.

I have fought this uphill battle all my life, and I'm only about halfway up the hill somewhere...still fighting...

Fight the Good Fight!
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We did give money to a Native guy near the hospital...his sign said simply, "Native American Vet."
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Yet, I don't understand why whites hate american indians so much? what have we done? I have yet to understand this and it makes me so frustrated because so many american indians are in poverty and I want to help them but I can't....I don't know, I guess I just wanted to come here and vent my frustrations and sadness....
So sorry Princess1912 that your heart is so heavy.I pray you find peace and great strength to walk with your head held high in dignity; especially among the ugly attitudes of racism.

I am white. Every bit of me. So I have the opportunity to hear the uncensored version of racism spill from the mouths of non native folks who just assume that I should think like them and that it's ok to talk like this in front of me.What I hear most comes from total lack of education about native issues. Ignorance then breeds prejudice.

Most of the ignorant complaints I hear?

We (whites) gave the Indians what they wanted so why do they want more?

They have their casinos to make money and the checks that our government gives them but why are they still poor?

If they are unhappy with the reservations we gave them then they should just move out of them and live like the rest of us.

And last but not least........why are those Indians so sensitive about anything Indian?


You didn't have to read far to see the ignorance fueled by entitlement did you? But these ideas are so prevalent among the non native populous. There needs to be education and then those who start becoming educated about where they were wrong will correct those who still remain stupid about the issue. Of coarse there are always haters in every culture that just hate to hate but I think education on native issues needs to lead the way.Just a humble opinion of mine.
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And the whites invented slavery and imported/kidnapped boatloads of indigenous people from another continent to work in their fields. You say "it's not fair". You will learn as you grow older, that very often, life isn't fair regardless of race you are.
Actually the practice of slavery predates recorded history but is generally believed to have started in the Middle East and northern Africa, you know "The Fertile Crescent". That area is Western Asia and Africa. Going by that Slavery was thus an invention of post-hunter-gatherer Middle Eastern civilizations. Furthermore a lot of slaves brought into the US from Africa were already slaves when they were still in Africa - but as we all know that if there is a demand then someone is going to generate a supply. Finally, although not prominent, some variants of slavery did exists amongst tribes in the Americas.
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Africans walked the Trail Of Tears with the Cherokee, they were following their owners.


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with respect, and to not mistreat their slaves.

Europe had "serfs" who were farmers loyal to one king, or lord.

The Soviets proposed a "proletariat" state of workers, basically slaves to their government.


Labor laws have evolved to where we are, slaves with hourly wages
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This guy goes way back. I remember seeing him at powwows during the early 90's and he hung around two caucasian brothers who we called the "nalga brothers."
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I'm an american indian young girl and I'm half black, but I follow my american indian heritage and ways vigorously. Yet, I don't understand why whites hate american indians so much? what have we done? I have yet to understand this and it makes me so frustrated because so many american indians are in poverty and I want to help them but I can't....I don't know, I guess I just wanted to come here and vent my frustrations and sadness....
@Princess1912, r u back to normal now?
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This guy goes way back. I remember seeing him at powwows during the early 90's and he hung around two caucasian brothers who we called the "nalga brothers."
Robert Silent Thunder. He has his own graphic design company. SILENTHUNDER/about the silence...

I googled him.
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Robert Silent Thunder. He has his own graphic design company. SILENTHUNDER/about the silence...

I googled him.
He also hung around a white guy who called himself a "dream dancer." Good to see him get rid of the riff raff.
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He also hung around a white guy who called himself a "dream dancer." Good to see him get rid of the riff raff.
Wanji,

Is this the guy who dances Northern Traditional in like the gray beadwork?
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There is racism with every race of people on the earth. It's not all between whites and non-whites, either - there are many non-white races that are racist against one another. Hell, there is even racism within races - the native community and african american communities for example, regarding someone's "pureness" of race (half-blood, mixed blood, etc). There's also a lot of racism between Asian countries. I've experienced lots of racism in my life - from whites who don't like native people, and unfortunately on a much greater scale, from native people who think I look too white.

It is, unfortunately, just how things are. You can spend as much time as you like analyzing why it's like that but it's not going to change anything. Change can only happen if the people doing it see the error of their way.

I think the number of people who are actually racist though are thankfully in the minority - in most areas, anyway. I've lived in different places all around the world and the levels and types of prevalent racism in different areas varies as widely as the ocean. I like to think most people are good and just toward their fellow man regardless of colour or culture. It's just that the crappy racist ones are louder and their actions and words are more shocking and noticeable.

I mostly just choose to ignore them and get on with my life. The more one dwells on it and develops anger, the worse it gets. Racism is a viscous cycle.
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Is this the guy who dances Northern Traditional in like the gray beadwork?
I think that is him, he has a beautiful wife though.
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I think that is him, he has a beautiful wife though.
I've seen Robert in 5 different regalia, in 2010 he wore the black/white/grey. He lives up around Big Bear area. Christian S. is his lady, an awesome shawler, and very nice person. This picture I took at San Diego State Pow Wow, Robert is in blue regalia, filming Christian dancing.


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