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Old 06-06-2013, 11:31 AM   #1
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I would like to know if my features are Native. I suspect my Mother is 1/2 Navajo. For many reasons not just her facial features. I do not mean to come off childish or lost I am just a bit confused. Grandma was a bit of a wild woman. They lived in Yuma AZ. & she sang in bars for a living. The idea my Mother is 100% Irish like she insists is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at her. I myself have been called every name in the book including CHINK. Mom is angry & defensive when I ask so I was just wondering in your opinion...Would you think Native American when looking at us? Please take NO offense at anything I post. I already believe I have native blood & would be proud to have it turn out I am of Navajo or any native blood. I feel a bit foolish so please be kind in you reply. The first pic is one of my Mother with a pic of a Native lady. I thought it almost looked like a picture of my Mom :)
The next myself & then one of me Holding my fist born Daughter.
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I would like to know if my features are Native. I suspect my Mother is 1/2 Navajo. For many reasons not just her facial features. I do not mean to come off childish or lost I am just a bit confused. Grandma was a bit of a wild woman. They lived in Yuma AZ. & she sang in bars for a living. The idea my Mother is 100% Irish like she insists is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at her. I myself have been called every name in the book including CHINK. Mom is angry & defensive when I ask so I was just wondering in your opinion...Would you think Native American when looking at us? Please take NO offense at anything I post. I already believe I have native blood & would be proud to have it turn out I am of Navajo or any native blood. I feel a bit foolish so please be kind in you reply. The first pic is one of my Mother with a pic of a Native lady. I thought it almost looked like a picture of my Mom :)
The next myself & then one of me Holding my fist born Daughter.
Can't answer your question but wanted to tell you that you have an adorable daughter!
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Thank you. She is 11 now :)She is the first of 4. She is the big one in the middle of course.
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Thank you. She is 11 now :)She is the first of 4. She is the big one in the middle of course.
All 4 are cute kids! Welcome to the site!
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I would like to know if my features are Native. I suspect my Mother is 1/2 Navajo. For many reasons not just her facial features. I do not mean to come off childish or lost I am just a bit confused. Grandma was a bit of a wild woman. They lived in Yuma AZ. & she sang in bars for a living. The idea my Mother is 100% Irish like she insists is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at her. I myself have been called every name in the book including CHINK. Mom is angry & defensive when I ask so I was just wondering in your opinion...Would you think Native American when looking at us? Please take NO offense at anything I post. I already believe I have native blood & would be proud to have it turn out I am of Navajo or any native blood. I feel a bit foolish so please be kind in you reply. The first pic is one of my Mother with a pic of a Native lady. I thought it almost looked like a picture of my Mom :)
The next myself & then one of me Holding my fist born Daughter.
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1. Welcome.
2. I look Samoan, Hawaiian or Mexican.
3. You just can't tell, anymore.

If you think I am joking, there are a few photographs of me here.

I don't even know what Native features are anymore.
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1. Welcome.
2. I look Samoan, Hawaiian or Mexican.
3. You just can't tell, anymore.

If you think I am joking, there are a few photographs of me here.

I don't even know what Native features are anymore.
Wow Zeke! Never would have thought of you as an International...???
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Your children are so precious!

As for the original question, it's hard to say. I know many people who "look native" and aren't, just as I know man who are of native blood and don't "look" it. We're such a mixed group of people (and so any Nations have varying features) that there isn't a definitive "native" look.

If you truly want to find about about your possibly native heritage, I'd suggest doing some research on your family. Otherwise all I can say about your looks is that you are a beautiful woman from whatever culture you're from.
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Yeah I am thinking I will save up & try DNA testing. Thank you for the complements. I am happy in my life but someday I would like to know. For my own curiosity. I know we have traced a bit of black foot supposedly on my Father's side. I guess if I want to know for sure I will have to test it. Wonder if the blood tests are as accurate as they claim to be.
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You look more native than me! (There's a pic or two of me, in my profile and member gallery.)

Thanks for sharing, and I think it's fine to ask. And not knowing has to be really hard. This is a perfect case for DNA testing, although I know it IS expensive.

You look especially native in your avatar...and I would have to say, each feature - eyes, nose, mouth, etc... I'm no expert - just have the experience of cheking out a lot of "mixed heritage" people, including myself, for that "native look".

Something that's cool to check, is to see if you inherited the "shovel-shaped" incisors. Are the back of your front teeth flat, or are the edges raised - similar to the sides of a scoop shovel? You can google that if I'm not making myself clear.

That might be something to have your mom check too...even if you don't tell her why you're checking. ;) And as I remember reading once, is that Natives have crumbly ear wax...although everybody is different. My brother has crumbly and my mom doesn't, so maybe it's too weird and gross to even mention.

Your mom has her own looks...who knows??!! She reminds me of some of the ranch ladies that live around here...some are native, some aren't.

I would be hesitant to say Navajo anyway. Yuma isn't really in their part of the region, although...with a quarter million Navajos, I've seen they are all over the country.

The Quechan people are from the south-west AZ area. You have a cute nose like from that area!! Just my opinion!! and yes, adorable kids!!
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You look more native than me! (There's a pic or two of me, in my profile and member gallery.)

Thanks for sharing, and I think it's fine to ask. And not knowing has to be really hard. This is a perfect case for DNA testing, although I know it IS expensive.

You look especially native in your avatar...and I would have to say, each feature - eyes, nose, mouth, etc... I'm no expert - just have the experience of cheking out a lot of "mixed heritage" people, including myself, for that "native look".

Something that's cool to check, is to see if you inherited the "shovel-shaped" incisors. Are the back of your front teeth flat, or are the edges raised - similar to the sides of a scoop shovel? You can google that if I'm not making myself clear.

That might be something to have your mom check too...even if you don't tell her why you're checking. ;) And as I remember reading once, is that Natives have crumbly ear wax...although everybody is different. My brother has crumbly and my mom doesn't, so maybe it's too weird and gross to even mention.

Your mom has her own looks...who knows??!! She reminds me of some of the ranch ladies that live around here...some are native, some aren't.

I would be hesitant to say Navajo anyway. Yuma isn't really in their part of the region, although...with a quarter million Navajos, I've seen they are all over the country.

The Quechan people are from the south-west AZ area. You have a cute nose like from that area!! Just my opinion!! and yes, adorable kids!!
WellI know you look NDN...and there is no doubt once you start talking!!!

wyo_rose is a pretty NDN woman! lol
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If you think I am joking, there are a few photographs of me here.

I don't even know what Native features are anymore.
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I would like to know if my features are Native. I suspect my Mother is 1/2 Navajo. For many reasons not just her facial features. I do not mean to come off childish or lost I am just a bit confused. Grandma was a bit of a wild woman. They lived in Yuma AZ. & she sang in bars for a living. The idea my Mother is 100% Irish like she insists is ridiculous. All you have to do is look at her. I myself have been called every name in the book including CHINK. Mom is angry & defensive when I ask so I was just wondering in your opinion...Would you think Native American when looking at us? Please take NO offense at anything I post. I already believe I have native blood & would be proud to have it turn out I am of Navajo or any native blood. I feel a bit foolish so please be kind in you reply. The first pic is one of my Mother with a pic of a Native lady. I thought it almost looked like a picture of my Mom :)
The next myself & then one of me Holding my fist born Daughter.
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I think your mom could possibly be native.. But if in doubt, try genealogy before you do DNA. It is like a puzzle or a mystery game.. and doesn't cost as much for sure!
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Like Zeke, I'm not too sure about what "Native features" are. For example: my sister looks like she just walked off the Rez, and I look like I just walked out of a mobster movie.

So I'm not sure I can help you.
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Ive heard DNA testing only works for men and that results are only conclusive for men. But I don't know. I hope that's not true. I am Haudenoshaunee and Cherokee on my mother's side, and I think Irish on my fathers side... But I don't know and it would surely be nice to know what I may have gotten from him. Maybe Irish, or Scottish or heck even Russian or French, but if what I heard is true, sadly I will never know. :(
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Ive heard DNA testing only works for men and that results are only conclusive for men. But I don't know. I hope that's not true. I am Haudenoshaunee and Cherokee on my mother's side, and I think Irish on my fathers side... But I don't know and it would surely be nice to know what I may have gotten from him. Maybe Irish, or Scottish or heck even Russian or French, but if what I heard is true, sadly I will never know. :(

I am female and I took the 23andme DNA test and it shows that I have a very mixed heritage including 3% First Nation from the American Northwest. When women take the test it traces the X from your mother and the X that your father gets from his mother. For the men it traces the X from their mother and the Y from their fathers. The test is very good and I feel it is the most accurate of all the tests out there.
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