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Old 07-25-2020, 03:27 PM   #41
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cranberry Vaccinium macrocarpon (north america) Vaccinium oxycoccos (europe)

Preiselbeeren Vaccinium vitis-idaea

cranberreis are not preiselbeeren but both it seems belong to the group of "Heidelbeeren".Vaccinium
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Had my ancestors been able to get lingonberries they'd have made wopjapi with 'em ) They fall right in the taste range of the fruits used.
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Question is, if the lingonberries in the below form are usable. They are ready for use with meat.

Preiselbeeren

Another option is below:

frozen Preiselbeeren

but you need to have a shopping card because that is wholesale and selling to the customer is for the retailer.
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My experience with lingonberries consists of eating them, LOL. Mostly as jam or syrup on Swedish pancakes. (Sunktaki makes some killer ones.)

Lingonberries pretty rare in the States. I don't know that I have ever seen them fresh, frozen or dried.
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Something that hasn't been mentioned in all this indigenous food is birch syrup.

Like maples, sap can be gathered from black birch trees. The sap is lower in sugars and contains more simple sugars than maple. It has a pronounced wintergreen flavor, familiar to those of us who grew up in PA and NJ from childhood black cows, made with chocolate ice cream and birch beer. As with maples, the syrup is made by boiling the sap. The heating drives off the volatiles. Thus the flavor is different from that of birch beer, which is made with black birch extract, which retains these compounds, and soda water.

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Recipes for Sampling Native Foods

Here on a food blog that looks tasty:

Bannock french toast w/saskatoon berry and birch syrup compote/

A source for birch syrup:

Alaska Birch Syrup
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A source for birch syrup:

Alaska Birch Syrup

Searching for "Birkensirup" yields "Birkenwasser" Birch Water and that seems not to be the same.

Maple syrup maple syrup on the quick search is to have but they charge "Apothekenpreise".

At least for maple syrup there is affordable alternative.
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The taste of maple and birch syrup is pretty different. The sugars in the two saps are different. The birch syrup isn't as sweet. But, I'm not a fan of maple syrup. The smell of the warm syrup hits me wrong -- propanal ick. So, don't ask me, LOL.


All this talk of birch syrup and now I want salmon candy. Chewy, smoky, salty sweet dried salmon. Yummm
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https://honest-food.net/salmon-candy-recipe/

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Add some powdered garlic, ground coriander and black pepper to the brine mix.

I'm the only Texan without a smoker. Besides salmon in Texas has taken a long expensive plane ride. I can't make my own.
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I'm the only Texan without a smoker.
Doesn't matter.

Cleaning up the garage and backyard this year resulted in a years long unused smoker to end up in the bulky waste.
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Social distancing be d.... somethinged. I'll be by for dinner.
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Wait for me!!!! I'll probably need to be running from a storm early in the week, anyhow. LOL!
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Subeeds be careful. Make those reservations early, I suspect everyone fleeing will be trying to stay out of shelters.
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These videos are made by a company that sell goods for 18th century frontier reenactors. Much of the food consumed by the frontier folk was very strongly Native influenced.

Winter Succotash

Summer Succotash


This is a kid oriented video about paw paws, a fruit used by Native peoples of the east:

Paw paw

Paw paws, Asimina triloba, are largely unfamiliar to dominant-culture Americans. They are very delicate and transport unfriendly, so they've never really been a commercial crop. I've never eaten them outside of the South.

The first time I every had one, was when I was in college in east Tennessee. During freshman bio they took us up into the mountains to for a field trip with an Ethnobotanist who had been collecting information Native and settler uses of plants in the area. He took us on useful plants hike through the mountains. I ate my first paw paw on that trip.


For BA, this is about hominy:

Hominy
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