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Strugganona 06-21-2006 11:50 PM

Headress Question for Non-Iroquois?
 
Alright...It has been bothering me for quite awhile since I seen this, so I have to put it out there. Are there any Native Peoples besides Iroquois that wear the style of headress that our men do, but include deer antlers? I ask this because I was at Schemitzun a few years ago and saw this Eastern War-dancer wearing a headress with deer antlers on them. I do not know if this man was Iroquois, but I figured he wasn't because we USUALLY know not to combine deer antlers with a headress unless you are a Chief. I don't know what the traditional look is for other Native People when it comes to combining headress' with deer antlers, but I am hoping that he isn't Iroquois and doing this....

Please let me know :regular_s

Blackbear 06-22-2006 04:28 PM

You know, I'd bet anything that he saw a chief wearing them, thought that it looked cool and put them on his gustoweh... cause you also know our chiefs would'tn be out competition dancing in their horns. He's more than likely non-iroquois.

3ndnbear 06-23-2006 12:04 PM

just me...
 
it's amazing what you see on the east coast.... since im 400 miles away from HOME and been hitting the trail around here.(md, va, nc, pa, nj).. i do see alot of similarities of our style... some one asked me a few weeks ago "when you see some one dressed like iroquois, dont you just want to go up and ask where they are from?" (call them out)(the woman was hon yo oh all the way) and i replied "no" cause i can TELL who is and who is trying... <to put the plainly>...y waste my time? i have sons to keep an eye on! lol all though in this area i know that we did have a lot of influence... there were more then the 5 nations... but i dont take it to personaly when i see "stuff" like that... and it's not my place to correct them (unless i am totally offended) because when people dabble in things that they know nothing of, it comes back on them... and most people are set in their ways... (i think that i've seen the same person.. hongeet looking?)

but this happens all the time in pow wows... you see some one dressed another Nation's regalia and know that they are not from there...

La + * Mom 07-07-2006 04:29 PM

and me too
 
But seriously, I have seen eastern individuals mimicking Iroquois style dresses mixed with shawls, belts and other 'goofy' accessories. Sometimes I can't help myself from glaring...

La + * Mom 07-07-2006 04:30 PM

I meant to say 'staring'. !!!

smoke_dancer_20 07-08-2006 02:29 AM

now think back people!....how old is this spilt feather gastowah???....

trib 07-25-2006 03:09 AM

His first name is Dean... he's Delaware/Lenape from what I recall, tho I don't think he is from the Oklahoma Lenape... there is a group in Jersey or Maryland or around there that claim Delaware. He's one of the better Eastern War/Straight dancers. I asked a friend about the horns one time too, he wasn't sure why Dean had them on his Gustoweh.

billyjoejimbob 07-25-2006 12:31 PM

Uh oh, the Iroquois were infiltrated by the wackaloons now! Its bad enough the BoyScouts tear you guys up.

bahnisiain 07-25-2006 08:30 PM

there was this older gent who had owl related things(from owl feathers to wings to an owl head on his head dress - it was impressive to say the least. i don't know what tribal affiliation he was.

blacktail 07-30-2006 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bahnisiain
there was this older gent who had owl related things(from owl feathers to wings to an owl head on his head dress - it was impressive to say the least. i don't know what tribal affiliation he was.

well if he had owl stuff on his hat, you can pretty much be sure he wasn't onkwehonwe. though now alot of people do what they please.

natashaN 03-02-2015 11:45 PM

Significance of antlers
 
Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me....I am not Native American, I'm from Australia and a few years back when I was in the middle of a very profound spiritual experience I had a vision of Native American man who was staring straight into my eyes, and he was wearing an animal cloak and a headdress of antlers. It was clear that he was in another realm. (I felt that this was one of my past reincarnations more than a spirit that I am connected to) .
I am wondering if antlers are specific to certain tribes?
And if it's okay to talk about could someone give me insight into what they signify?

Many blessings,
Natasha

Harland Jones 03-04-2015 03:03 PM

just me...

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it's amazing what you see on the east coast.... since im 400 miles away from HOME and been hitting the trail around here.(md, va, nc, pa, nj).. i do see alot of similarities of our style... some one asked me a few weeks ago "when you see some one dressed like iroquois, dont you just want to go up and ask where they are from?" (call them out)(the woman was hon yo oh all the way) and i replied "no" cause i can TELL who is and who is trying... <to put the plainly>...y waste my time? i have sons to keep an eye on! lol all though in this area i know that we did have a lot of influence... there were more then the 5 nations... but i dont take it to personaly when i see "stuff" like that... and it's not my place to correct them (unless i am totally offended) because when people dabble in things that they know nothing of, it comes back on them... and most people are set in their ways... (i think that i've seen the same person.. hongeet looking?)

but this happens all the time in pow wows... you see some one dressed another Nation's regalia and know that they are not from there...

I believe this 100%.:shades_sm

Maize-Grower 03-05-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacktail (Post 791459)
well if he had owl stuff on his hat, you can pretty much be sure he wasn't onkwehonwe. though now alot of people do what they please.

Prolly not Cherokee either. :thinking: I was told that owls could be bad. You're supposed to laugh at them to get them to fly away. I could be wrong, I know only what's in my family.

AmigoKumeyaay 03-05-2015 04:58 PM

Deer Antler thread
 
http://forums.powwows.com/f23/uses-deer-antlers-20126/


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