Register | Groups | Members List | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
![]() |

Forum Home -
Smoke Dance Help!
![]() |
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
Smoke Dance Help!
Hello all! I am trying to set up a few classes for an elementary school class about First Canadians (and Americans) I wanted to include song and dance as a part of the lessons and have decided that the Smoke Dance would be a good start. I am having some trouble with a few things and was hoping someone could help!
I would like to know if the Smoke Dance Lyrics are improvised on the spot or thought out in advance, I would like to know if they lyrics themselves are syllabic or actual sung words, and finally is there any language specific to the smoke dance that you won't find in other dances? Thanx Peter |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 |
Tiny Tot Dancer
|
So you are wanting to teach a lesson about something you seem to not quite know about?
I'm confused. ![]()
__________________
ScarryWolf ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
Why would you assume I know nothing about it? I know the history, dance, economics, geography. All i'm missing is language and dress which is why I came here. But if its too much trouble to share your culture then perhaps I won't teach it and another generation will grow up knowing nothing of our first peoples, no skin off my back but I would love to share my music and culture if I were asked.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 | |
Tiny Tot Dancer
|
Quote:
My people don't smoke dance, so it also is no skin off my back. However I would try to get someone that smoke dances to speak about it (I am assuming that you are in an area in which smoke dance culture is prevalent otherwise you would have picked something relevant to your geographical area). I would'nt ask a couple of questions on the internet and feel I had the right to speak about smoke dancing. If I could'nt get a smoke dancer who would like to speak on it, I would move on to another dance that I could find a person with connections to said dance to speak to the students. I applaud your wanting to give your students a glimpse of native culture, I just think getting a native to speak on it is best.
__________________
ScarryWolf ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 | |
Junior Dancer
|
Quote:
But I would agree with BigChief, u should ask someone to come speak to the children or do a dance show. I know alot of ppl/groups who do this for a living. It sure helps in getting rid of stereotypes and myths. U know like dancing so the smoke goes through the hole in the longhouse....lmfao so not true!!!! But thank you for including us(the haudenosaunee) in ur discussion. Also, what are the economics of smoke dance that u refer to?
__________________
onodowa'ga:' gal |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 | |
dong bang shin ki lover
|
Quote:
I would suggest you pay a visit to a museum on one of the reservations. Oneida Nation has an awesome Museum/cultural center. Also, there are various dance groups who travel through New York State who perform social dances and Smokedance and teach it as well. One I know very well is the Haudenosaunee Singers and Dancers led by Sherri Hopper. Sorry but I don't know any groups for Canada. |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 | |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
I guess my real point is... that even with First people in our schools, as our neighbours and friends at work, we STILL teach children as if they were a part of some distant history instead of a living breathing culture in our own back yards! I was hoping to start a change.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
I love smoke dance.In this thread i got lot of great ideas about Smoke dance.about smoke dance i think smoke dance is a competitive version sped up from the original version which is the war dance instead of dance b4 and after war they made it for competition
__________________
Micro sd card 4gb |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Pow Wow Visitor
|
I'm chiming in a little bit late here but I still think---even if you couldn't get permission to pay someone---that you should try to find someone who would be willing to come and speak to the kids and share a little bit for free who is actually in that culture, not just try to gather information this way and then teach it. I think surely if you talk to people who live it, there will be some who would rather contribute their own knowledge in the interest of educating younger generations about this without charge than just see someone outside trying to give information that's not first-hand.
Sometimes when others try to teach such things, I think it makes First Nations people feel like monkeys in a zoo where they're being taught about as though they're not part of mainstream life right here in this country. It feels like, "Oh look, here are these other species who are so interesting to learn about"---but from afar----when actually they're people just like anyone else and they're living everywhere anyone else lives, with feelings and intelligence and loves and interests like anyone else. I hope you'll look around, inquire at tribal headquarters, maybe go to some powwows, (but read the etiquette posted here first, of course) and see if you could find someone who would be willing to come and speak to your kids instead of trying to do this yourself. I think it will be a much more rewarding and educational experience for everyone that way. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Egi Consulting
|
Is there any steps about smoke dance?
![]()
__________________
Dotnetnuke support |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Sponsored Links |

Bookmarks |
Tags |
dance, language, school, smoke, teach |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Smoke Dance! | smoke_dancer_20 | Pow Wow Talk | 4 | 05-20-2015 12:04 AM |
A history of the Gourd Dance. | Zotigh | Gourd Dance | 118 | 08-16-2010 04:09 PM |
Whats the smoke dance? | this1ndnchic | Pow Wow Talk | 3 | 09-06-2004 03:43 AM |
SF Bay Area Natives--Heads Up! Dance Auditions | Plenty Fox | Native Issues | 0 | 06-20-2004 11:08 AM |
Josh Richardson in the news | Smokin' Ace | Grass Dancing | 1 | 12-04-2003 10:12 AM |
Join the online community forum celebrating Native American Culture, Pow Wows, tribes, music, art, and history.
Join PowWows.com Today!
Your Guide to Native American Pow Wows Since 1996
Enjoy the benefits of being a member of PowWows.com!
Join our Native American online community focused on Pow Wow singing, dancing, crafts, Native American music, Native American videos, and more.
Add your Pow Wow to our Calendar
Share your photos and videos
Play games, enter contests, and much more!
New Threads
Pow Wow Calendar Search
Quick Links
- News
- Native American Jobs
- Native American Colleges and Universities
- Native American Tribes
- Resources for Scouts
- Resources for Students and Teachers
- Resources for 1st Pow Wow Visitors