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milehighsalute 05-01-2014 02:47 PM

ndn anti-semitism
 
dont try saying it doesnt exist

i've had increasing conversations on the subject with many indians over the last few years....

sometimes its over the manifest destiny in israel

or sometimes over how they (jewish) want us to join their causes and claim to have suffered as we have....yet never supported us

im not saying its right.....im not saying its wrong.....im just wondering what your thoughts are and if anyone else has noticed he increase

not trying to offend anybody....but lets not deny the sentiment is rising

OLChemist 05-01-2014 04:31 PM

When I was a child, we lived for a time in a neighborhood which was comprised largely of Eastern European Jews. One day, I watched an older boy from my school guide his mutely wandering, half dressed mother out of the middle of the street. My mother told me: His mother had been 4 when the concentration camp where she was imprisoned was liberated. And sometime she had spells. I remember wondering if my Native grandfather had ever watched his father retrieve his survivor mother from a horror too big for words. It was one of the first emotional/empathic connection I made with my people's history.

Playing my holocaust is worse than yours is a fool's game. And what does the winner get -- some kind of horrifying bragging rights? Both our peoples have suffered from systematic efforts of varying intensity to eliminate our cultures and persons. Surely from that we can come up with some common ground for understanding one another.

I have heard some Native people say some pretty ignorant, Elders of Zion kind of stuff about Jews. I've heard some Jewish people say some stupid, Hollyweird stuff about Indians. Gee, more common ground -- both groups have idiots in their midst, LOL.

wanjica_the_one 05-01-2014 08:02 PM

I only had contact with the Jewish once in my life. His name is Ivan Sherman who lived in a 6,000 sq ft home in Laguna Beach, CA and his payroll checks were always bouncing.

Spiritflight 05-02-2014 07:23 AM

My mom and stepfather were friends with a jewish writer. I met him at their wedding long time ago but sadly they are not around anymore. When people say they want to support one another it can be that the desire is there but not the tools.

Chevy_truckin_NDN 05-02-2014 11:34 AM

I live in a town that is a majority Irish and one time I went to the bar and listened to a bar owner go on and on about the plight of the Irish, how they were mistreated, forced to move from thier homeland to America, and that I as a Native American should understand what his people went thru as I had the same thing happen to my people...

I was like hmmmm. Interesting, interesting...so in a way I understand. So I support his business from time to time.

Was that helpful? I know he supports our casinos...lmao

White Powwow Dancer 05-03-2014 08:33 PM

What about a first nation leader made a pro Hitler statements and got Jews mad.

wardancer 05-03-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer (Post 1597851)
What about a first nation leader made a pro Hitler statements and got Jews mad.

So , who did that ? You come on here with a hit and run statement like that , and don't elaborate. That's crap. And so what if one did ? C'mon , you wanna talk crap , back it up !

White Powwow Dancer 05-03-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wardancer (Post 1597861)
So , who did that ? You come on here with a hit and run statement like that , and don't elaborate. That's crap. And so what if one did ? C'mon , you wanna talk crap , back it up !

OK Wardancer look at this
Mohawk Nation News Reporter Admires Hitler A story about David Ahenakew case in Canada.

wardancer 05-03-2014 11:18 PM

And that's all well and good. It happened in Canada. Furthermore , Our U.S.Constitution guarantees our right to free speech , so I guess if someone wants to spout that type of crap , that is their right. Personal opinions are just that , personal. Now days there is too much on tape , too much on video , and too many people jumping up and down
trying to get their feelings hurt , so they get to be a martyr.

No matter who you are , you have some prejudice ....I don't particularly care for you WPD , just because some of the stupid chit you post. I don't really have anything against blacks , but I would prefer my daughter not marry one.I don't like some peoples cause they're drunks and drug abusers and I just don't like that lifestyle. I'm just saying that no matter what the subject someone will take offense......somewhere

I have Jewish friends , Amish friends , white friends , black friends, Arab friends Muslim friends , etc. etc , etc ,

wardancer 05-03-2014 11:26 PM

This excerpt is frow that link WPD posted.


The book, `Wasichu’, states how Hitler was inspired by the way North Americans dealt with its `Indian problem’. Our holocaust led to the loss of thousands of our nations and over 115 million of our people. Hitler thought this `removal policy’ was a great way to promote racial purity and to eliminate the people he called eugenically deficient.


Hmmmm.....see now , where he got his ideas?

wanjica_the_one 05-04-2014 12:58 AM

White Powwow Dancer is all about whining and demanding. He has no soul.

wardancer 05-04-2014 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer (Post 1597862)
OK Wardancer look at this
Mohawk Nation News Reporter Admires Hitler A story about David Ahenakew case in Canada.

O.K. you gonna offer up an opinion???

It'll probably be something like: I think this is wrong , or I don't like it......that's kinda the short sentence replies you like to post !

gilisi 05-04-2014 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by White Powwow Dancer (Post 1597851)
What about a first nation leader made a pro Hitler statements and got Jews mad.

Forget anti semitism

I'm anti AZZZism

milehighsalute 05-04-2014 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanjica_the_one (Post 1597877)
White Powwow Dancer is all about whining and demanding. He has no soul.

CO-SIGN!!!.....and he cries to the mods too

milehighsalute 05-04-2014 03:54 AM

now this is going so sound bad whether its on this thread or not......but hitler DID take care of his own.....

germans were not starving in their own country anymore

and when ethnic germans were getting killed by polish jews in a neighboring country he did have his troops step in and stop it

american history teaches us that hitler sought world domination and glosses over the fact that the jew took over every financial institution in germany after world war 1 via hostile financial takeover and ethnic germans were growing poorer by the day.......american history also says 6 million jews were killed in camps though that had also been proven false, not the killing, but the inflated numbers and the fact that many of the victims were no jewish......no german leader did as much for germans as adolf hitler.......he isnt even in the top 10 as far as monster dictators go yet he portrayed as the biggest face of evil in the world

this is not my opinion, these are FACTS

but what do you expect? its the same american history that tells us that we all came over the behring 10,000 years ago and the same american history that tells us that the first thankgiving was peaceful and the pilgrims extended themselves to invite the ndns to eat with them, the same american history that tells us that columbus discovered american and that george washington is the father of this country and the indian wars were fought valiantly and won fair and square

these FACTS are gonna be unpopular to some who read this yet someone is still eventually going to argue with me pushing their OPINION......

whether or not it offends you...what ahenkaew spoke is closer to the truth than what your history teacher taught you.....i dont know anything about canadian law but truth is outlawed in many countries when the sins of the jewish people are pointed out

RestlessN8iv 05-04-2014 08:10 AM

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gilisi 05-04-2014 11:04 AM

Dang Milehigh..... You sure you haven't taken one too many walks up winkte hill?

milehighsalute 05-04-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilisi (Post 1597904)
Dang Milehigh..... You sure you haven't taken one too many walks up winkte hill?

lol.....i dont "like" hitler.....nor am i a "fan" of hitler

but truth is truth no matter who tells it or what it is told about

adolf hitler is sold to us as a maniac....when in reality he was part of a regime who went out of control

he was a monster....no denying that......but as i also stick by is the fact that he may not even crack the top 10 if his regime hadnt killed many jews in his camps along with communists, union tradists, mentally disabled (the count was closer to 750,000)

stalin, pol-pot,south african apartheid regime, andrew jackson ect were much more brutal......i think many people here will read what i type, let their hate for a man cloud their judgement with emotion and close themselves off to the facts that realities exist outside of textbooks....especially AMERICAN HISTORY textbooks

russian history textbooks tell the story from the perspective of them being responsible for winning ww2 and the USA having only a small minor part......and they do mention about the invasion of poland being a direct results of riots where ethnic germans were being killed and many jewish residents in poland were not only behind it but were actively participating

it may sound like i am defending germans and the nazi regime....i assure you i am not....i am defending the truth and defending the facts that dont make it into history books.....truthfully i dont even like germans because they seem so fixated with us indians......i wish they would go find someone else to go mimic.....like maybe their own ancestors

but it is what it is

if you wanna find fault in anything i said lets hear it

renia58 05-04-2014 01:26 PM

Heinrich Himmler said:

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"All the experts of Polish origin are to be used in our war industry. POLES disappearing from the world. (...) Hour every German is coming. Therefore it is necessary that a great nation SEE GERMAN SWE main task the destruction of all Poles."

renia58 05-04-2014 02:30 PM

speech before the Reichstag, 28 April 1939

Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter, with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command, and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad, that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death's-head formation in readiness, for the present only in the East, with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?


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