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Old 05-28-2008, 07:45 PM   #1
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powwow rip off!

we just got back from a powwow in western oklahoma, my son was in the junior tradish catagory. the flyer we got was 1st=$300, 2nd=200, 3rd=100...in his catagory....he got 1st place and recieved $40.........the explanation we got was that they run out of money for the adult catagories so they took it from the juniors... my son was going to buy an elk hide for his drum we are making........guess what,,, no hide, no drum, no money
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It happens all the time. One should never count on pending contest money to use for a future project.
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that does suck the pow-wow committee should have gotten your address to maybe send the rest later well you know that probably wouldn't happen if they did.
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What a drag! I hope your son won't let this sour him on dancing at pow wows now.
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that does suck the pow-wow committee should have gotten your address to maybe send the rest later well you know that probably wouldn't happen if they did.
Pleeze - never gonna happen.....this happens all the time and not just in Oklahoma. That's why we always told our kids, don't plan on spending it until you have it.

Sorry for your disappointment, but I know several others that were there and your son was not the only one to get short changed -- my son and family were part of host drum and got kicked out of the room for nonpayment by the committee and $100 for 3 days................so just count on the old saying "What goes around comes around". Maybe the committee will figure it out before next year.
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What powwow was this? If they are going to be shady like that I bet a whole lotta people would like to know so they wouldn't support it in the future! I know I wouldn't just on the principle of the thing.

I'm really sick and tired of hearing these things. Makes me wonder if anyone would ever choose to sue what would happen. Hey.... sounds like false advertising to me.

I can't help it.....that's just so wrong taking from the kids.

I have to ask how much of this is our fault? We want umteen big name drums that can charge whatever.... ask for lots of rooms and etc. Where is all this going to end? Don't get me wrong.. drums need to get paid well for what they do. It is hella expensive now just to get to a powwow they are contracted for. They need to be fed well and have a place to stay but now we're not talking hundreds to get a good drum there to sing....we're talking thousands and that's more times than not for a bunch of good ole party boys!
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Word of warning, Never take a check for dance money. When my daughter was younger, she did quite well and usually placed first in her division, a couple of times, she had to take a check, not enough made at gate reciepts to cover prize board. Yup, you guessed it, the checks bounced. Now, it would not have been so bad, but the one check was written on behalf of a CFL team< Hamilton Ti-cats. The person in charge of this eventsaid not enough money generated at gate reciepts for prize board, so thinking that since this was with a big football team event, the check would be good, Nope, I was out $300 because when the bank paid out, a hold was put on my$$ until the check cleared. Tried numerous times to contact person in charge, she had her phone number disconnected. Oh well, live and learn.
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I know quite a few people who still got their cheques from that Ti-Cat powwow.
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I know quite a few people who still got their cheques from that Ti-Cat powwow.
Dude's it our fault for thinking that things have changed after all these years. The cheque's in the mail. A person who has said that they are going to payout this much money and doesn't should make every effort to pay it back, but we tend to excuse it and say that is the price of some competition. I have been to some powwows where the group tries to get too big too fast. I went to one where they promised all the drum groups good money to set up ($500.) for the weekend. It should have covered expenses. I think we got like $5.00 each for the weekend. A well known jingle dress dancer in the BC region got first and she won $30.00 and boy was she mad. I explained that we got charged $5.00 to get into the powwow so singers basically got there money back. Dude, it was harsh but at least it made her laugh. Its sometimes hard to take but then I remember that what I learned is we don't powwow for the money, we do it to honor our grandmother's memory. So when it gets kind of aggravating or bothersome, just remember why you dance or sing.
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I had a similar experience several years ago. One weekend, I only got 1/5th of what was agreed upon. The next weekend at another event, no one got paid!
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Just to get it straight if it says that is the amount winners will recieve isn't that false advertising but I'm not saying it is all about the money. I do not pow-wow for the money I just go to watch my girls dance.
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If you are competeing all I have to say is call before you go and try to talk to someone who is on the commitee, and if you feel that you have not got a streight answer just don't go, I know that I wouldn't.

Another thing if you are competeing go to the ones that have a good report on paying out. But always remember even the ones who do pay out what they are suppose too, there is always the clicks, and politics that will be there or the who knows who, to prevent the ones who probably deserve it still may not be treated fair. That is just how it is.

Now don't get me wrong even though it is few and far between I still feel that there are still some streight up Powwows that judge and pay out fairly. But not many...
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