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Old 06-05-2010, 02:07 AM   #1
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What is the meaning behind a Native growing hair long?

What is the tradition of Natives growing hair long? I've been told that the hair reflects the spirit, so the longer the hair, the stronger the spirit.

Am I on the right path with this idea?
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Old 06-05-2010, 02:54 AM   #2
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Nah, that's not right. It's actually a rebellious act against old white men. You see, there one thing you'll never find...an old white dude with a full head of hair!

That's what you got looking forward to, whitewoofydude. A bald head!!!

I'm juss messin wichu.
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No no! That's not right either. It's all about the looks.

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Just scroll down to JD's second post.

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Yep; We told my oldest son that if he cut off his hair the girls wouldn't find him hot any more. They'd all be fightin over his friends and thier hair instead. :)
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before I joined the military I had my black hair to my waist...now I can afford a haircut.

nah, jes playing...its tradition I suppose.
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before I joined the military I had my black hair to my waist...now I can afford a haircut.

nah, jes playing...its tradition I suppose.

How come they won't let you have long hair in the military? If it's tied neatly behind your head or something, how would it be a problem?

Sikhs don't cut their hair, so I wonder if they have any problems in the military
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What is the tradition of Natives growing hair long? I've been told that the hair reflects the spirit, so the longer the hair, the stronger the spirit.

Am I on the right path with this idea?
As the radical, short-haired, guy in my family, I tend to believe that's bunk.

First, many tribes shaved their heads so this isn't, inherently, traditional across the board. I tend to believe it's another manifestation of romanticism as put upon us by Hollywood and old photos from plains tribes. (If there had been Kodak during the time of free Northeastern tribes, one wonders what the romanticized appearance of Indians might be...)

Of course, I might just be jealous.

Why is my hair short? I can't stand anything in my face or on my neck, when it's hot.
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I agree with Zeke its largley romanticism, though some do it for traditional purposes but its largely not the case.

I have long black hair down to my arse thats for the most part straight except for the ends, which have been burned by studio lights and caught on everything imaginable, lol. I was too lazy to get it cut, and am now too attached to it to get it cut.
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I can't stand my hair touching my ears so I prefer to keep it short. I'm too old to run around with long hair anyway.
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I can't stand my hair touching my ears so I prefer to keep it short. I'm too old to run around with long hair anyway.
I think guys with long hair oughta be made to cut their hair n look like white people!!!

So there!

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I think guys with long hair oughta be made to cut their hair n look like white people!!!

So there!

I gotta go now.
I might look like a big Mexican or a small Samoan, but I'd have great difficulty passing for white.
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How come they won't let you have long hair in the military? If it's tied neatly behind your head or something, how would it be a problem?

Sikhs don't cut their hair, so I wonder if they have any problems in the military
There was a story about this on NPR just a few months ago. I don't remember the details, but the military is easing up a little for Sikhs. It is on a case-by-case basis, but there have been a couple Sikhs who've been allowed to keep their hair and turbans - but one is a dentist and the other an M.D., and they're stationed stateside. I don't know if any exceptions have been made for combat troops.
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Well, I've been trying to grow my hair long for more than a year now. My plan was to have a ponytail and I'm already around 7 inches long now. However, long hair is just a pain in the butt to maintain. I can't even wash my face properly in the shower without my hair covering my face. When I sleep at night, my hair gets up into my nose and it's very unpleasant.


In short, I'm going to shave my head.
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Well, I've been trying to grow my hair long for more than a year now. My plan was to have a ponytail and I'm already around 7 inches long now. However, long hair is just a pain in the butt to maintain. I can't even wash my face properly in the shower without my hair covering my face. When I sleep at night, my hair gets up into my nose and it's very unpleasant.


In short, I'm going to shave my head.
Yup....I just knew u couldn't be NDN for long. Now think how it would be for having hair past your shoulders for over 40 years of your life.
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Maybe if you skipped the handstands while taking a shower....

Being female, I've had long hair (certainly by dominant culture male standards) all my life. I've never had these problems. All I can say, is you're not doing something right.

You know modern technology has given us these wonderful cloth-covered, rubber hair restraint devices called ponytail holders. If you can keep your cats from stealing them and stuffing them into the oven vents (phew!), they work wonders. I'd just skip the fuzzy, hot pink scunchies in your case. Or maybe not, if you really want to make a statement.
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Whitewolf: Just so you know, some militaries (Canadian) allow their First Nation men to grow their hair if they wish. Our regs are pretty clear on the what, when and how. If the are growing it, they have to have a chit - once it gets past their collar they have to wear it in a pony tail and once they can braid it it has to be braided.

I concur with JD and Wyo Rose... get an elastic band and tie your hair back. You must realize that hair only grows on average about a 1/2 inch a month - a year of trying is only going to yield about 6 inches fro the scalp. Did you expect it to grow faster? Like that Barbie doll head that kids pull on the hair and it "grows"?
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You mean you can't pull on your hair and make it "grow"??? Well.....poo!

I've been growing my hair out again because, traditionally speaking, I should wear it in a bun when I dance. I just had about 3 inches taken off just to even it out. It's below my shoulders now, which is nice. I tried wearing it loose at the last dance, but it kept blowing in my face. Timmy tiger told me to get a barrette. I didn't have one handy, so I put it back in a bun.

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You beat me to it, OlChemist! I was gonna say, I had hair almost down to my @ss until I was in my late 20's, and I never had those problems. Especially not in the shower/bath.

But, Whitewolf, if you want long hair, ya gotta be patient, and let it grow past the "irritating stage." 7 inches of hair isn't much, and sounds like it's right about "nose length." If you let your bangs grow to your chin (or longer) it shouldn't get up in your nose when you sleep. I was never a scrunchy person; I always let my hair fly free.

Another solution would be to have someone shower with you, and a). either wash your hair for you, or b). tell you what you're doing wrong.
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Well, I've been trying to grow my hair long for more than a year now. My plan was to have a ponytail and I'm already around 7 inches long now. However, long hair is just a pain in the butt to maintain. I can't even wash my face properly in the shower without my hair covering my face. When I sleep at night, my hair gets up into my nose and it's very unpleasant.


In short, I'm going to shave my head.
At that stage its only annoying for a few months until it grows past your nose. As the others have said you ought to buy a few packs of ponytailers, hair ties... what ever you want to call them, as long as you don't use a bare rubber band as the rubber will grip your hair and rip at it and cause damage when you go to remove it. Brings me to another point, you have to get it trimmed once in a while to get rid of the damage like split ends that will continue to travel up the length of the hair. I just had like 4 or 5 inches taken off a month ago and it has already grown back by an inch.

JD the Goody brand is awesome, I go through so many of them, they get lost very easily or I use them to band something together like the ratchet straps in my truck. Or it could very well be the cat is hiding them, he is sneaky like that.
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