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Old 03-09-2013, 01:57 PM   #61
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maybe they will show up again fun people some tuff but fun and well meaning
and in some fairness maybe there should be a hater or kinder or milder form with dislike button, might keep some of the miss guided a chance to learn something before but hurt and kicking rocks take a toll and someone leaving with out gaining understanding of their unfortunate posing..as to wounded bear i wondered if he was not some one imagine persona of what wrong with ppl of limited understanding with in their own purported Indian beliefs.
I dunno about WBear. At first, I thought he was a legit person with problems. Some things added up, like what he said about his education. MO has a terrible reputation among educators for not enforcing the education of children, and his mother held him out at home. I can see that happening.

But there were also things that didn't add up too...and those things began to mount.

He could have been truly "challenged." He may have been told he was part Indian, and he ran with that. He brought a lot of things on himself, but I'm not too proud of the way he or his persona, whichever he was, was treated here. I even wondered if he were a college psychology experiment or something...to see how we would react.

But he kept going on and saying things that were getting more and more inappropriate and/or irritating, and it got to the point that I was happy the mods put an end to it.
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I dunno about WBear. At first, I thought he was a legit person with problems. Some things added up, like what he said about his education. MO has a terrible reputation among educators for not enforcing the education of children, and his mother held him out at home. I can see that happening.

But there were also things that didn't add up too...and those things began to mount.

He could have been truly "challenged." He may have been told he was part Indian, and he ran with that. He brought a lot of things on himself, but I'm not too proud of the way he or his persona, whichever he was, was treated here. I even wondered if he were a college psychology experiment or something...to see how we would react.

But he kept going on and saying things that were getting more and more inappropriate and/or irritating, and it got to the point that I was happy the mods put an end to it.
yep had to happen,i tried at first also with him ..the basic point is hes still misguided thinking his tuff stuff is from a point of his own reality and how many ways dose it take to help set some one right, i could have told him he was not hurt because of his Indian blood he was hurt because of mean ppl or that being hung at a young age he could be thankful that his life force was strong because of for him and the creator or that hanging on to His Indiness he was banking on out ward effects more than inner beliefs and family.
i understood his handicap with spelling i still come from there also, spell check and a grammar specialist here at powwows.com helped goad me in to trying harder, to get my words on page that were not to distracted by all my errors.. years in working out my disgrafia . still one day i got a pm with a greenie, praising a post of mine telling me that to date best i had ever posted expressed myself with content, of course less words was said but his meaning was clear and my respect to him for helping me.its not easy to step down to help some one step up:) although it speaks volumes to someone inner nature in doing so
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yep had to happen,i tried at first also with him ..the basic point is hes still misguided thinking his tuff stuff is from a point of his own reality and how many ways dose it take to help set some one right,

Exactly! Over time, some began to suspect he wasn't real...or worse, a prank. No matter how hard we would try to "help" him, nothing was going to help. Sometimes though, the weakest people are the ones who try to come off as tuff stuff...it's a coping mechanism, I think.

I need spell checker a lot too. You do great on here! I always enjoy reading your posts.
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thank you, the mood at home is sweet today and the mood at powwows is sweet also lol only you and i appear to be on tho hehe anyway Thomas is working on one of his Bussels, the door opened, all the birds have flocked to the trees over our home, hes playing some sweet music, no sad cares or heave loads, just the blessing of life and the thought that's life right here ready ...im going to see where i fit in that lovely movement of sound and being, probely cooking lunch lol or make my tomato plants ready for the storm the news said is on it way tonight
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i did not even see that ,wonder does it like to face book or to powwows?
It likes it just here.

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Achievements are messed up for still more folks. My issue was cleared up though. I didn't see me on the list. Yea!! Funny being here 5 and 10 years on the same day. Looking good!

I noticed that today everything is faster too. Did something new kick in today?
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I still use Windows XP...not good with change..LOL
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Hi. Apologies everyone. Had I looked at this (first) then I guess I would have been in the know too.
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But, it still does not give a factual reason for why/how people can sign up (with a slight difference in the name) and take over someone else's account. This isn't a new problem (only me complaining) as I posted on the thread relating to WhiteEagle's.
Thanks. Just wanted to say.
Hope things smooth themselves out the sooner the better ;) ^^
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that if I create a powwows account with a letter or two different in the username, and a totally unique password, that the forum software will log me in as a similar user instead of myself? I'm not sure how this is possible, given how things work. Perhaps if you did some tampering on your side to cookies but you would still need to know the password for the similar user account.

Once you are on, you can see other users pages. If the user table was recreated and autonumbering assigned new keys, then possibly something could happen and get mixed up, but that would create login and major, major issues and everybody would be messed up.

Its possible that the software defaults to certain values, like male for gender. Is this possible?

Databases don't search on usernames, that is too slow, they search on keys, which are unique numbers in indexed fields and they search on the entire value, and at a low level and in different parts of the hardware (ie. memory usually).

And even if two usernames are the similar, even the same (which isn't allowed for other reasons) the unique keys for each of the user accounts is totally different. And the numeric id for users, being part of the primary key, has a unique index, and therefore duplicates are impossible. Referential integrity generally has to be enforced for certain functions of the database to work, it is quite slow without it.

So I don't understand what you are experiencing, is it just that the gender on your account said male? Or is it something that is happening when you type in a url?
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On this forum the username is just an handle for your actual user ID, which is numeric. The only way I can see this happening is if during migration the database got corrupted but the likelihood that it happened is slim to none.
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On this forum the username is just an handle for your actual user ID, which is numeric. The only way I can see this happening is if during migration the database got corrupted but the likelihood that it happened is slim to none.
If its a file copy, it is none.
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I still use Windows XP...not good with change..LOL

Maybe you treat your computer better than I do. I always break mine within 2 years, and by that time I want a new one anyway.

I did stop BEADING at the computer when a tiny seed bead got under my question mark...at that point, I had to pretend I had all the answers until I got the keyboard replaced and had use of a question mark again.
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If its a file copy, it is none.
I don't know what they did, I was told that another company was handling the move so I don't know what they were doing.
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean that if I create a powwows account with a letter or two different in the username, and a totally unique password, that the forum software will log me in as a similar user instead of myself? I'm not sure how this is possible, given how things work. Perhaps if you did some tampering on your side to cookies but you would still need to know the password for the similar user account.

Once you are on, you can see other users pages. If the user table was recreated and autonumbering assigned new keys, then possibly something could happen and get mixed up, but that would create login and major, major issues and everybody would be messed up.

Its possible that the software defaults to certain values, like male for gender. Is this possible?

Databases don't search on usernames, that is too slow, they search on keys, which are unique numbers in indexed fields and they search on the entire value, and at a low level and in different parts of the hardware (ie. memory usually).

And even if two usernames are the similar, even the same (which isn't allowed for other reasons) the unique keys for each of the user accounts is totally different. And the numeric id for users, being part of the primary key, has a unique index, and therefore duplicates are impossible. Referential integrity generally has to be enforced for certain functions of the database to work, it is quite slow without it.

So I don't understand what you are experiencing, is it just that the gender on your account said male? Or is it something that is happening when you type in a url?
I think (in retrospect and by what I now know to be true to this situation..) is that it is the server not completely recognising the difference of the newly created name (difference of the '~' in it, and that of another users, hence, a similar one).
Also, generally, what I thought (as to how I interpreted it) was that it looked to be that I had signed up (with a name not in use, as it only would allow, of course) but having someone else's details on my account screen. Does this explain it to yourself more?
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I think (in retrospect and by what I now know to be true to this situation..) is that it is the server not completely recognising the difference of the newly created name (difference of the '~' in it, and that of another users, hence, a similar one).
Also, generally, what I thought (as to how I interpreted it) was that it looked to be that I had signed up (with a name not in use, as it only would allow, of course) but having someone else's details on my account screen. Does this explain it to yourself more?
Did you have the tilde "~" in your user name or other non alphabetic or numeric character? It could be a character set issue. The characterset is set in multiple places but is easy to check.
1. UNIX-- at system and user level env command for system, $HOME/.profile. You may need the sysadmin to do this for you, they usually know off the top of their heads.
2. Apache -- .ini file I think you can check this by logging in to the new system's admin login and finding the apache directory and reading the file. I think this may be it.
3. mysql-- mysql.ini file and also looking at the system tables though the admin tool to be sure. My sql does have characterset issues if I remember correctly during setup of opensource stuff sometimes and through import/export. admin login, locate mysql.ini and login to the database using the admin tool and check the charset settings. If they didn't bring along the old mysql.ini file, or faithfully recreate it, it could be a real problem, because old posts would be different from new posts. The databases need to match. And the charset needs to be correct before opening the new database for the first time.
4. Also, changes are usually made to charactersets during migration on all files transferred, especially from UNIX to windows. Check the log files from the migration for errors and settings and the script. If the hokey ftp "file download" tool was used, you should be able to talk to the sysadmin on the old system and then the one on the new one to find out the character sets the tool used or the readme files for the tools and/or if there is a log file. Usually you'd have more errors.

Number 4 is more often a problem when migrating from windows type server platforms (intel type systems, even linux sometimes) to UNIX (risc based systems) or vice versa but can be a problem in UNIX to UNIX systems if the default server languages are different (moving from a us based isp to one in china or something) or the sysadmin needs to change from the default characterset for one reason or another. ISP ftp tools isp have for their clients might screw up things, mostly because you have to ftp to the windows desktop--requiring one charset change, then back up to unix, requiring it to be changed again. Or they screw it up using dos or unix ftp because the charset may need to be explicitly set.

1-4 should be compared with the old server's values. If there is a discrepancy, usually the sysadmin on the new server can assist and let you know if it is a problem and if so talk to you about making changes. There may be more places like a vbulletin ini or python/php engine ini. Im not really up on this kind of stuff, we use oracle stuff, but the sysadmin can tell you what directory they are in.

Charactersets translate the numeric value for a character into the letter or symbol that you intend. Different charactersets assign different numeric values to different keyboard characters. Usually changes are minor.

When a file created using one character set is read by a system or program using another characterset, certain characters will be interpretted differently, a tilde may become a hyphen. If the file system characterset is different from the database characterset, then it is possible that the html portion of the page may display data for one username and the database may retrieve and fill out the rest of the page with data for another user.

This is because php must log in to mysql either
--with single login connect string in the php files. upon login, the php program may query the user table by username to get the userid and subsequent user-specific data
--or by username and pwd passed in memory as variables with the POST or GET command
both which could be misread by a database with a different characterset. There could even be discrepancies between system characterset which could affect the variables in memory or Apache's characterset. Or the php files could be affected during transfer.

The database characterset should dictate which one to use as you would have to recreate a new database and reimport (recreate) everything if even possible and the risk there is great.

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I think (in retrospect and by what I now know to be true to this situation..) is that it is the server not completely recognising the difference of the newly created name (difference of the '~' in it, and that of another users, hence, a similar one).
Also, generally, what I thought (as to how I interpreted it) was that it looked to be that I had signed up (with a name not in use, as it only would allow, of course) but having someone else's details on my account screen. Does this explain it to yourself more?
Instead of all of this drama and having everyone drop everything to help you with your singular problem (and in retrospect of your rocky beginning}, why not begin again and select another name...something without a wolf in it or a dash or tilda. Just a name.

They are still working out the server. It takes time...and this is also wasting a lot of your time because this process can't be hurried along...these problems will end up fixed. You seem impatient, so I think this would be the best solution to get you along your way.
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Also this move was more than just a file copy. During the move the domain structure had to change as well. Notice instead of "powwows.com/gathering" we are now on "forums.powwows.com". Until recently .../gathering took you to an error page and now a redirect has been placed on that address.
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Yeah, I noticed the redirect. It's coming along. I think powwows has actually worked pretty fast on things. Stuff like this takes time to work out.
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When you click on Spirit~Wolf, it brings up Spirit-Wolf. Their accounts are not merged, info not shared. Just the system having a hard time distinguishing between the ~ and the - on the link.
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Here this may help. We always used symbolic links (what I meant by aliases). They are much faster and solve more problems.
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