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Old 08-05-2003, 02:37 AM   #21
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Yeah, the plastic is kind of hard to sew through....but I've found out that Pringles Chips lids are kind of a thinner plastic and a lot easier to sew through....that or I cut the plastic a little smaller than the barrette. Anyway.....it's just what I use and thought I'd pass it on.
Thanks for letting me know about the barrette's.....I've been using those spring-kind of barrette's, and they come apart or the parts come off and get lost....so I really like those 1 peice barrettes.
Anyway....as always, I enjoy reading the demo's you do.
Keep it up!!!!
Ever try the plastic dividers from a binder ,,,they work even better and can be cut and shaped with any small utility knife!!!
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I do the wampum stich in beading, that works so much easier and if I make a mistake in the pattern I can cut it out and replace it anytime. Never need a loom again. I am working on my pipe bag and it has a pattern of ~ 10 x 16 inches,,,that's a lot of beads!!!
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As per the glue I use Goop from walmart, it is great and stays flexible. To protect the beads after I am done with a project and I want to keep it from getting distroyed i put two layers of podge on it. Also from walmart or any other craft shop,,,brushes on milky and dries clear.
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Thanx, Blackbear! That should back my loom stuff a lot better than what I've been doing.:D
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different idea - try hem binding clips

I did not use a stiff layer in my last barrette, but if you wanted to, you could sandwich the butter lid plastic (i love that idea) between your beadwork and a leather layer. On my last barrette, I measured a piece of leather the same size as my beadwork. Then I sewed three hem binding clips onto the leather (I find these are so much easier to snap into place...you can find in arts and crafts section, like 50 for $2 or something). Then I sewed the leather piece onto the beadwork, using a combination whipstitch/fringe, I think you call it. Basically, for edging you can take two beads out, away from piece, then three more, then two down towards piece to form loop. Then go back up through last two, over adding three more and down adding two more. I know it's confusing and I'll try to add pics later if I ever get a digital. It's been done before, I know, but I like it. If you don't want this edging, you could just whipstitch in thread that matches your background or border color of design. But seriously, you have to try the hem binding clips if you haven't already. I always carry a dozen in my bag and they are such lifesavers. Also, you can make a quick dangle barrette by stringing two strands of beads though the hole which conveniently comes in those clips...have to..stop..rambling :-)
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Wow I usually bead it first, then add another pice of leather with two holes in it, and the clasp in the middle of the two then sew the two together. Or if it's the other kind then I just find a stick and put two holes in the leather then bead both of them. Just adding my styles to the potluck! lol :p
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Old 11-02-2003, 02:22 AM   #28
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Well it's always nice to have another's perspective and hints!!!
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I don't even use leather on any of my barretts anymore, instead I use vinyl. They last so much longer. After my hair gets braided it's still pretty damp from all the hairspray and goop that stays in your hair. After a while my leather barretts would start streaching and breaking. Plus it's easier to edge bead. I use the same stuff for my barretts. Vinyl is water proof.:p ,and sweat proof.:p
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Menie...go to the craft archives and check out my applique tutorial... you would do the same around a cabachon.. Key things to remember though, don't crowd your beads... after you put them on the needle , bring them down to the end of your thread and place them where they need to be, then put your needle through whatever you are beading on, right in front of the hole on the last bead, not next to the cabachon or row of beads before and then bring back up behind the last two beads in the center where the holes are...in other words, not next to what you are beading but keep in a straight line so to speak. Also don't put on more than four beads at a time.
Thank you so much for the advice! I have never beaded anything, except for one pair of looped earings that I never finished or even remember how to complete. You made it so much less complicated. Thank you. Also, do you have any techniques or advice you can share with me, a beginning beader? I am Cherokee and would like to start out beading in a traditional Cherokee way, but I don't know any natives here in Washington who will teach me to bead, much less in a Cherokee traditional way. Any help is appreciated. Thank you
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the cherokee use the same stitches pretty much everyone else uses.. there is'nt really a particular outstanding cherokee way of beading that i know of. I would suggest buying horace goodhue's off loom beading book or sadie starr's first beading book. Both are illlustrated well and in plain english and easy to understand. Also they are full of the basics of beading, but the sadie starr gives you ideas to embellish and add your own touches.
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thanks for the helpful tips...maybe i will try and back my barretts cause I've been having my auntie back some of my stuff cuz I don't know how*bows head* :dontknow: ...
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I don't know how to make this any simpler honestly... if anyone has any suggestions on how I can make this thread simpler to understand I would appreciate it
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Hey one problem I have when putting the leather on the back is that my pellon I sew it on sticks out and you can see white in some places. I can't cut to close to the edge cua it will snip the threads. So what do anyone suggests to use instead of pellon? I like using canvas but it does the same thing. What is this crib liner everyone keeps talking bout?
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they are all gonna do the same thing.. but if you are using dark beads on white.. try coloring in the spots that the dark beads will go with a like color marker before beading it and then I have cheated and used a marker on the edge as well.. and then it does'nt really show through teh edge beading either.
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Thanks !! I get the barrettes at walmart. I've tried finding a bulk source for those types of barrettes but to no avail... so I just buy the three pack of them at walmart for I think 1.67 and ... well it's kinda cheaper than buying the barrette blanks that you have to take apart... you know the "other" kind of barrette? But with those kind you can get them as small as one inch.. good for kids. I usually add a layer of plastic and cut the holes in the plastic for the barrette to go through, but this was already pretty thick..and I just can't hack beading through the plastic itself!!! OUCH on my fingers. Glad if this helps anyone out though..
Blackbear, BEAUTIFUL !!!! I shall check my source list but I do believe I know where you may get those barrette backs in bulk and at a good wholesale price. I shall get back with you on that.

May I add that beading through the butter lids can be kinda tough and I use either the stiff corner of a brain tan hide or heavy weight canvas.

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I am Cherokee and would like to start out beading in a traditional Cherokee way, but I don't know any natives here in Washington who will teach me to bead, much less in a Cherokee traditional way. Any help is appreciated. Thank you
Hummingrose, our way was not much different with the exception that we did very little lazy stitch style beading. reason being of course our environment. We had more thick brush and etc. to snag beadwork and such so you will find that most were 2 or 3 bead tack down. Much like a two needle applique stitch.

You are in Washington state? I moved from there courtesy of US Army three years ago but will be going back there in a year or so. There are very few Cherokee beaders there but a very large community of Blackfoot which do excellent beadwork and are very adept with the 2 needle applique...in the meantime, if you would like some printed diagram type stuff, I do beading workshops here and would be glad to drop my handout package in the mail to you. It will cover the two needle, the single needle, basics of loom, peyote, off loom weaving, brick, and lazy stitch. Just drop me an email with mailing info and I will get it out for you Tuesday!

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May I add that beading through the butter lids can be kinda tough and I use either the stiff corner of a brain tan hide or heavy weight canvas.

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Hi ladyredtailedhawk; you don't actually bead through the butter lid or whatever piece of plastic your using. The plastic is cut slighty smaller than your finished beadwork, then you layer the plastic; sandwich style between your work, and the backing, then you sew the three pieces together, and then do your beaded edge. I think you mis-understood something, somewhere.

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Hi ladyredtailedhawk; you don't actually bead through the butter lid or whatever piece of plastic your using. The plastic is cut slighty smaller than your finished beadwork, then you layer the plastic; sandwich style between your work, and the backing, then you sew the three pieces together, and then do your beaded edge. I think you mis-understood something, somewhere.
Ah I thought I read on of the posts that referred to beading through the lid. I was not gonna be rude and say HUH or WHAT? LOL. So I merely said that would be tough. hehehehehe
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