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Forum: Gourd Dance 11-12-2004, 03:58 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Smile It is good to be able to ask questions and to...

It is good to be able to ask questions and to learn. What's the old saying? "The only dumb question is the one you don't ask".
Here in N. Cal. gourd is getting more popular each year. And it...
Forum: Gourd Dance 11-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
If something belongs to a collective group...

If something belongs to a collective group (tribe) then shouldn't the collective group be the ones to decide who gives something away! Not an individual. Good logic!
Forum: Gourd Dance 11-10-2004, 02:07 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Thank you for a very informative answer.Thank you...

Thank you for a very informative answer.Thank you for not calling me a theif and understanding that I am just trying to learn. Gourd dancing does exist here in N. Cal. and it is getting more popular...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-21-2004, 02:25 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 4,584
Posted By GrayDog
Smile great info....thanks for helping me to clear up...

great info....thanks for helping me to clear up some questions. Thanks
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-19-2004, 05:58 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up It's true.....All of us don't know everything!...

It's true.....All of us don't know everything! Ignorance is only corrected by asking questions and researching.
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-18-2004, 05:57 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 7,547
Posted By GrayDog
Again I apologize....I mean no disrespect or...

Again I apologize....I mean no disrespect or offense. I am only trying to learn. Please understand that where I'm at (N. Cal.) there are ONLY california rezs. Plains and woodland tribes have no rez...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-15-2004, 07:07 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 7,547
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up Great dialogue here. I am thankful for the...

Great dialogue here. I am thankful for the knowledge spoken here. I tried to get these kind of responses on another thread and was called a "eurocentric theif" by a certain Kiowa. I believe the Gourd...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs down PS...the Cherokee do sweats. We just don't...

PS...the Cherokee do sweats. We just don't consider them a ceremony in themselves rather as preparation for a ceremony. Do we Gourd? Ask the Cherokee Gourd Society!
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-12-2004, 05:45 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs down Hmmm! What have I done for my culture? Does...

Hmmm! What have I done for my culture? Does attending DQ University (an NDN college staffed and owned 100% by NDN's) and completing a Cherokee language class count? Does sitting at a drum occupied by...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-12-2004, 03:36 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up Scott I can understand your point of view...

Scott

I can understand your point of view and I can definitely agree about learning ones own tribal ways. However, it doesn't seem that odd that others are coming to find out about the dance when...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-07-2004, 04:47 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs down My sincere apologizies to all. I am only thinking...

My sincere apologizies to all. I am only thinking out loud. No disrepect intended. You are correct in what you say...I'm only interested in the "why", not "stealing" something from anybody. I wish ya...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-06-2004, 06:57 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up Good info here. Could ya'll tell me your opinions...

Good info here. Could ya'll tell me your opinions about other tribes gourd dancing. Seems that after so many years of others doing this wonderful dance, that it just might be public domain by now....
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-06-2004, 03:05 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up ___WhoMe...thanks for your reply. The Gourd Dance...

___WhoMe...thanks for your reply. The Gourd Dance origins are a little muddled. I honestly am trying to learn more about gourd dancing and it's history. I have been on a Cherokee web page out of...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-05-2004, 05:41 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 4,584
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up But do you HAVE to Kiowa to dance gourd or a...

But do you HAVE to Kiowa to dance gourd or a member of the Kiowa Tia Piah sanctioned societies to dance? What about "Open Gourd" which is most common here in N. California?
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-05-2004, 02:57 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Exclamation One last question and then I will part ways with...

One last question and then I will part ways with you. I read the article you posted about the origins of the gourd dance. Very interesting. I did read where the Red Wolf gave the Kiowa the gourd...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-05-2004, 02:52 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up Thank you for your reply. It is refreshing to get...

Thank you for your reply. It is refreshing to get an honest answer without first being accused of "stealing" this or that and not being interested in ones own heritage.Gourd dancing is very special...
Forum: Gourd Dance 10-05-2004, 02:41 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Cool I apoligize if I have offended you. It's hard not...

I apoligize if I have offended you. It's hard not to be defensive when your being accused of "stealing" something when in truth your trying to pay homage to it. Here in N. Cal there is a drum called...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-30-2004, 03:09 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Exclamation Scott...I really enjoy your replies and your...

Scott...I really enjoy your replies and your knowledge. Let me enlighten you about how things are here on the west coast. Unlike Oklahoma (I lived there and often miss it) where there are many...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-29-2004, 05:57 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up [Thanks for the understanding. Out here in N....

[Thanks for the understanding. Out here in N. Cal. there don't seem to be very many Cherokee let along any stomp dances. But Gourd is present at every pow wow. And most are not Kiowa. It is an...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-23-2004, 04:46 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 28,601
Posted By GrayDog
Thumbs up [QUOTE=WhoMe] WhoMe.....Thank you for...

[QUOTE=WhoMe]


WhoMe.....Thank you for your response (Wado). I appreciate all info I can get. How would a person go about getting in touch with someone who can give permission to dance...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-22-2004, 07:22 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Smile ok..ok...I would like some feed back on this...

ok..ok...I would like some feed back on this question if all you good NDNs would so kindly do. Where (what position) do you begin dancing from. Here in N. Cal. chairs are normally set up on the west...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-22-2004, 06:34 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Zotigh....Thanks for responding. Wow! Some very...

Zotigh....Thanks for responding. Wow! Some very heated exchanges go on here. Always good to share thoughts/feelings
Can you direct me to some one or some Society so that I may continue to...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-22-2004, 06:26 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Smile Headsman...can you tell me more about the...

Headsman...can you tell me more about the Cherokee Gourd Clan? I am also Cherokee and a Gourd Dancer here in N. California. I do not belong to a Society but do dance "Open" Gourd. I'd appreciate any...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-17-2004, 02:29 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Smile Scott............Are you aware of any scantioned...

Scott............Are you aware of any scantioned gourd societies in California? Specifically N. Cal.? There seem to be countless societies out here! What about a society called "The four Winds" out...
Forum: Gourd Dance 09-15-2004, 06:23 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 11,934
Posted By GrayDog
Talking Headman....can you give me more info on your...

Headman....can you give me more info on your society? I too am Cherokee and Gourd Dance out here in N. California. Problem is there are so many groups and no one agrees on anything. I do not wish to...
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