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nativemom 10-05-2004 01:54 PM

What's up with Iwasil????
 
Hey people,

Now I know how rumors get started and all, but I heard that Iwasil didn't have all of their prize money. I didn't go so for those that did.....is this true?

Kakeeya 10-05-2004 02:09 PM

That's what I heard too, that first place dance winners was 1000.00 but they only got paid 500.00 and so on. I heard that the committee person had a casino check and he was supposed to have it by Monday to pay out more but I haven't heard anything else.

julio 10-05-2004 06:17 PM

That is the truth, they didn't have all the money.. said they would send the rest in a check.......The whole weeknd was kinda weird... it was a good powwow in the dancer and singers view.... good dancing and singing.... but at the door just checking everyones bags and stuff crazy.. prices jacked up on the food and stuff, parking.... just all that money you had to pay....they didnt feed the singers and dancers... but enough complaining, I had a good time.....

Kiwehnzii 10-05-2004 06:28 PM

Another one of those, "the check is in the mail" deals. eh?

Been there.

Kakeeya 10-05-2004 06:37 PM

Too bad cuz it sounded like it was going to be a cool powwow. Hopefully people will get their $$$ but I also hope that they let us know if they don't get it so we can be leary of the organizers of Iwasil and future powwows.

sltate 10-06-2004 10:37 AM

Wow! That's too bad. We had a birthday dinner at my home last night and one of our friends said they had called up there and the drums received half in cash and half in check which they cashed Monday, so that particular drum did receive their money it just took one day longer.
Kinder was a good pow wow. You only had to pay $5 dollars to register and the parking and admission was free. They fed the dancers and singers on Saturday and had free water for them. It was only two days and they had all the money, in cash, at payout time. The drum contest was small, only two southern drums showed and their were 4 places in the drum contests plus day money. So, next year Kinder might be the place to go. The payout on dancing was 1200, 800 600 and 400. Northern and southern fancy were separate, as well as Northern Men's Original and contemporary. So, this was a good dancing and singing pow wow. We didn't get searched either. ha ha That's crazy, what are they searching indians for anyways?

debbieyd 10-06-2004 11:24 AM

Where is Kinder? Just asking cause my grandkids just joined the powwow circle but I'm still getting their outfits together, they'll come full circle during the Wapato Longhouse Christmas Celebration, December 24-26, 2004 @ Wapato, Washington. PS they feed the people there and the christmas tree time is fun, christmas caroling takes place too, but people don't check your bags or charge fees like I heard about iwasil......

Nezbah 10-06-2004 01:41 PM

yeah.....wassup with the money? Jeesh and I am down here in the southern area where the navajo nation is getting all the bad reps for not paying their payouts, etc. *S* and we're suppose to trust our brothers and sisters who put on these powwows. Ohhhhhhhhhh well, guess we'll have to wait. I just hope the money is in the bank not like some other unmentionable powwows down here.........LOL.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! .....LOL

makesHERlulu 10-06-2004 03:20 PM

I was reading stuff about pow-wows being held indoors, and I am led to believe this IWASIL was indoors as well. If so, people this is the world we live in today, security plays a big role these days.

No we don't think an Indian is going to do something crazy, BUT someone dumbs$$$ will. It just takes one time and then all the second guessers will come out. Better to be safe than sorry.

The lack of payouts are totally different.

kiyaanii mom 10-06-2004 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by debbieyd
Where is Kinder? Just asking cause my grandkids just joined the powwow circle but I'm still getting their outfits together, they'll come full circle during the Wapato Longhouse Christmas Celebration, December 24-26, 2004 @ Wapato, Washington. PS they feed the people there and the christmas tree time is fun, christmas caroling takes place too, but people don't check your bags or charge fees like I heard about iwasil......

Kinder, Louisiana. It is a good powwow.

julio 10-06-2004 09:49 PM

yeah for sure kinder next year.... somewhere , where they appreciate the natives.... feed us or something... ... 10 dollars for 2 corn dogs and a pop...man... expensive being indian sometimes...phew....
....12$ for admission, 6$ a day to park.... KINDER it is next year...

Miss Mia 10-07-2004 06:00 AM

gawsh, i was a volunteer, i was helping out at the front door passing out "bracelets"....man it was crazy madness up in there.

1)had to pay $6 parking (daily)
2)$12 admission fee for children 3+
3)bag check at the door (even diaper bags)
4)had to wear this weak bracelet ALL WEEKEND to get back in

"if you dont have your pass or a bracelet you cant come in"

and i dont even know if they charged for registration or not...

but all in all, the powwow itself was really good, especially on saturday when they honored the coastal people and carried in a big canoe during grand entry,

oh and the "spotlight fancydance" special w/ northern fancy vs. southern fancy

jingle genie 10-07-2004 11:38 AM

i wonder what they paid to rent that bulilding. i know some pw's charge admission to help make back the money they spent renting the building... i thought it was good, the rally thingy was kinda crazy but for 150pts, how could you say no. Singing was good dancing was good. I thought it was a cool time...but, the payout thing was kinda crazy... guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens... *shrugs shoulders*

the security thing too, i think since the building was probably owned by the city that they had to have security and it might have been the owners of the buildings policy to have security posted and have the searches and stuff going on...

I don't know for sure, i was not on the committee or anything but, just trying to make sense of it all.... :D

BurBz 10-07-2004 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kakeeya
That's what I heard too, that first place dance winners was 1000.00 but they only got paid 500.00 and so on. I heard that the committee person had a casino check and he was supposed to have it by Monday to pay out more but I haven't heard anything else.

wow!! eye thot tiss jest happinds en thee souftwist! erond nabaho land! lol

Kakeeya 10-07-2004 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Burberrilish
wow!! eye thot tiss jest happinds en thee souftwist! erond nabaho land! lol

:rofl2: Eye no!!!!!! :Chatter

Mato Winyan 10-07-2004 04:12 PM

What was the point of all the searches..... make sure you don't smuggle in some doritos?? :Tongue

Anyway.......WTF was up with the non competeing drums getting like $21 for the whole weekend????? After you have to pay parking.. admission...food and etc!!! Helllll no.. I don't think so. That is just plain wrong.

Kakeeya 10-07-2004 04:20 PM

Yeah they probably should have cut out the fancy posters, embroidered jackets and trophies and just concentrated on raising the $$$.

How embarassing for that to happen Mato, sure sucks that it happened in the NW, but I know the main organizer is not from this area (my disclaimer :Chatter)

WhoMe 10-07-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kakeeya
How embarassing for that to happen Mato, sure sucks that it happened in the NW, but I know the main organizer is not from this area (my disclaimer :Chatter)

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Kakeeya,

Yeah he claims to be from S. Dakota. He is a nice enough guy. Did you see him in D.C.? He was there.

Unfortunately, IWASIL has established a pattern of non-payment when it was hosted both in Washington State and Montana.

What a waste for such a good cause.

Kakeeya 10-07-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoMe
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Kakeeya,

Yeah he claims to be from S. Dakota. He is a nice enough guy. Did you see him in D.C.? He was there.

Unfortunately, IWASIL has established a pattern of non-payment when it was hosted both in Washington State and Montana.

What a waste for such a good cause.

I never saw him there at DC, must have blended in with the other 25,000 NDN's there. I almost saw you there WhoMe, I was with my friend that had the Jingle Dress Regalia booth and we had to run a few errands, when we got back, her niece gave her the card you left just minutes before.

Yes too bad that IWASIL is making a bad rep for themselves. I do hope that the dancers get their full pay as promised.

WhoMe 10-08-2004 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kakeeya
I never saw him there at DC, must have blended in with the other 25,000 NDN's there. I almost saw you there WhoMe, I was with my friend that had the Jingle Dress Regalia booth and we had to run a few errands, when we got back, her niece gave her the card you left just minutes before.

Yes too bad that IWASIL is making a bad rep for themselves. I do hope that the dancers get their full pay as promised.

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Kakeeya,

I am sorry we didn't meet in D.C. as planned. I took our friend from the Jingle Dress regalia booth, a friend from British Columbia and a friend from New Mexico to the NCAI reception on Wednesday night. That is where I saw the guy who runs IWASIL. Like I said, "he is a nice enough guy" and came up to say hello!

As a side note: I got to meet KeetersCAT, Buckskin Pantyhose and Bushybraids! . . . So "it 'sall GOOD!"


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