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Old 02-29-2004, 11:26 PM   #1
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How do you bead crowns?

How do you start beading crowns? And, What do you bead them on?
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Old 03-02-2004, 02:23 PM   #2
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some folks like to use canvas in layers same as with leggings, or baby lap pad..I've used velvet and fun foam... but before you even start it, you have to know how big to make it and what shape as well. Then draw out your pattern to be beaded.
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I use felt and white paper. I know some peeps use crib lining, too. I just use whatever's available.

Best to draw your design out, and use colored pencils to see what it will look like before you bead just to give you an idea.
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I used old record album convers and covered it with canvas. perfect sturdyness.
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I used old record album convers and covered it with canvas. perfect sturdyness.
OH NO!! you could be selling those on ebay!! ROFLMAO!! Just kidding, but having owned records all my life and even taking care of them well, they just break down really easily.. but I suppose most anything that's a paper product would... You know though.. it's not too terribly expensive to buy large sheets of plastic (usually used to make painting stencils) and that would be good for the inbetween layer. On my smaller items and rosettes I just trim up yogurt lids and sandwich that between the beadwork and the leather. But sometimes I do use card stock behind the leather just to keep the back looking smooth.
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actually I do have a tutorial done on my forum to do crowns, but it is a child sized one and also it's a haudenosaunee crown which means it is covered with velvet and then beaded..not a fully beaded crown like you are wanting.
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I use extra long card stock and cereal boxes in between for sturdiness. I used to use leather, but now I just use any kind of cloth material (i like the floral more) for the backing.
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I usually use uhpolstery vinyl and brown shipping paper!

I will draw out my design and color it. I try to get the drawning to be as close to the real size of the crown so that it will have a realistic look.
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Here is a pic of one I'm doing.

It is on lapad material. I'm going to add funfoam then canvas back
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re: crowns

I did one for my daughter and I used the crib lap pad..but I also used size 13 cuts so I needed something that will be easy to bead on and yet hold the beads well. I usually draw out the designs(animals) can't draw them too well and the others..I do as I go along. But I try to balance it all out..like what is on one side is also on the other side. Oh and I also entertwined quills..within the bead work? You also need to know the size and shape of the crown, mine was half circles..I thought it was pretty cool..I used straight stitching and lazy stitch. Also, used that stuff from hobby/lobby a hard plastic..to keep it sturdy. I recommend that b/c my daughter won another title? The person who made the crown used a very hard plastic? Well, guess what when it got really cold it a mn. pow wow? It broke? So, I would use that I think it was template or something but it is flexible and so far it didn't break. That was the only one I made..but it was fun doing it..it did take me awhile though, but once I completed the designs it was easy to do the rest. Hope that helps, oh yeah and I used rhinestones for the edging and backed it with a leather..that even if you sweat would handle it.. LOL..
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I've actually been asked to do a crown for someone special so I think the next project i should do is photograph as I go and post it here as another tutorial since we get so many requests for crown construction.
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I would like to know how much do you all charge for crowns?
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Here is a pic of one I'm doing.

It is on lapad material. I'm going to add funfoam then canvas back
That looks like that 50 weight Pellon...is it? I've found this weight and 60 at Wal-Mart & Hancock's. I like the sturdiness and thickness of these. I'm using the 50 for my 1st pair of beaded leggings. Then I'm going to put the beading on to a quilted batting. Wish me luck.
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what she is using is flannelized rubber sheeting/baby lap pad.. you know when you have a kid they have those really soft fuzzy rubber things that you put in the crib in case of accidents, or to change the baby on.. or for burping? If you do, that's what it is. I'm forever in debt to the first person who suggested the stuff when I first became moderator here... she/he changed beading for me entirely and now I can bead ANYTHING MUHAHAHAHAHA!! just kidding.. or am i?
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what she is using is flannelized rubber sheeting/baby lap pad.. you know when you have a kid they have those really soft fuzzy rubber things that you put in the crib in case of accidents, or to change the baby on.. or for burping? If you do, that's what it is. I'm forever in debt to the first person who suggested the stuff when I first became moderator here... she/he changed beading for me entirely and now I can bead ANYTHING MUHAHAHAHAHA!! just kidding.. or am i?
Hey Blackbear -
I am gonna have to hunt me down some of that!

And I find it where?
~Cause I dun no nuttin bout no babies, Miss Scarlet!!!~

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btw - good idea you got about showing all of us the steps in making that next crown you are fixin' to do. Nyaweh.

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I get it at walmart in the infant section. Back there with the baby sheets and blankies... but I don't buy the great big pad, I buy the lap pads, usually 4 in a pack for 7 bucks. Try to get them with one side being totally white cause I messed up and bought a pack that was blue on one side and I'm not liking it.
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re: crowns

Hello: what do I charge for crowns? Well around here they usually sell for $500. Why do you think I did my daughter's. LOL :rainbw: But I spose it depends on the size of beads, what kind of design you put on it and how much work you put into it, and the materials too. Oh, yeah those burp pads you can find em at pamida's, target, shopko in the baby section of course. I usually buy the larger sections for bigger projects. I am currently do two vests on those..so far I have the designs on them I just have to fill them in. We'll see how they hold up to those. I did make some side tabs out of those too. However, this time I will put a backing on it like broadcloth. But yep whomever thought of using those..was a genius. LIke duct tape huh? The ones I usually buy are 100% flannel..so that makes it easier.
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since yer talkin about lap pad

Well.. HI everyone, hi blackbear it's me! Remember j_j24? I asked ya 2 bead 4 me way back when...lol
Ne ways, I'm gonna bead a crown for my niece and I need lap pad I was introduced to this material by a friend of mine..And I was hooked 2 it! When I was down to my last meter i was like nooooooooooo! lol. I found some @ Zellers but they never got any more after that. Where else in Canada would they have that?(Walmarts over here don't carry it) and the fabric stores sell it for $$$$ by the meterz.It is the best stuff 2 bead on!
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you try looking where they sell the table cloth material... i got mine there. ALOT cheaper that way!!
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Here is the last photo I took. Hopefully I can get the final ones up ...SOON!!
(i nominate this the official beaders smilie... do I hear a second? )
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