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Old 08-19-2014, 10:47 PM   #1
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Salvadge a rosette on bad foundation

Hey everyone. I tried beading a rosette for the first time and ended up using a pretty limp foundation material. I intended to use pellon, but accidentally bought the lighter version and tried to use it anyway.

I trimmed the material down when I finished and glued it onto a leather disc. The leather is a little smaller than the beadwork so it wouldn't show on the outside. However now the material is essentially coming apart on the edges and I'm starting to lose the last row of beads.

Any ideas on how to save it? The beads haven't fallen off completely yet, but they aren't attached to any material anymore.
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The rosette looks good, but I don't have any idea how to save it. The material frayed, and that's not good. I would start over with pellon. Maybe someone else will have a better idea.
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The rosette looks good, but I don't have any idea how to save it. The material frayed, and that's not good. I would start over with pellon. Maybe someone else will have a better idea.
Thanks! I found some Fabric Fusion which says it can be used to stop fraying. I tried putting some on there and leaving it to dry over night. Hopefully that'll help it! I'll follow up if it works or not.
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As it turns out, the Fabric Fusion did work! It dried clear so it's not too noticeable. The glue is protecting the fabric edge from fraying and is holding the loose beads back in place.

So I guess I solved my own problem, but hopefully this might help someone else if they run into the same thing!
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I'm having a similar problem with this denim-backed beadwork which I glued and edge-stitched to a piece of scrap leather with a hair clip attachment. It was my second ever rosette style work and I want to repair it so my sister can wear it. How should I fix this fraying along the bottom edge?

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Hello, let me see if I can help..


Did you bead to the denim ? or is that your backing? Im having a time unerstanding whats what lol Looks to me the denim is fraying? You could seal it but if it were me, I would redo "I know yuck dont hate me " lol Bead to a heavy pellon, does not will not fray, sturdy to bead on, then after beading back with what ever you want and carefully taking small stitches bead wrap the backing on. If this is confusing please ask away and I will help anywhere I can.
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Did you bead to the denim ? or is that your backing? Im having a time unerstanding whats what lol Looks to me the denim is fraying? You could seal it but if it were me, I would redo "I know yuck dont hate me " lol Bead to a heavy pellon, does not will not fray, sturdy to bead on, then after beading back with what ever you want and carefully taking small stitches bead wrap the backing on. If this is confusing please ask away and I will help anywhere I can.
I did bead to the denim. Then backed it to leather. What's Pellon?
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Pellon is a heavy non-woven interfacing/fabric stiffener. Many people like it for beadwork. I tear the living daylights out of the stuff . But many folks with a lighter touch get good results.

I am old school. If I am doing applique on canvas or woven fabric for a barrette, I serge or zigzag stitch the edges. Then I reinforce the backside of the material by fusing heavy paper on with fusible interfacing. Before I do the edge beading, I attach the stiffener, hardware and backing. Then I bind the edge with bias tape and cover the tape with rolled edging.

Personally, for barrettes I use thin buckskin, stiffened with manilla folder. You kill your fingers if you don't use an awl, but no beaded yarmulke syndrome. Your design stays really crisp. Then I stiffen and back as usual. You can do lace edging that doesn't pull out on a hefty substrate.

Actually, my avatar is a picture of a figure beaded on the yoke of a dress. It was beaded on canvas.
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OLChemist, I was planning to do some applique on a cloth strap for a shoulder bag. Should I back it in some way? I don't think it will unravel since it's not got any cuts in it and is woven for the purpose of being used on the bag... Also, your work is amazing. I shall have to practice a lot to become as good.

Eagle Plumes, yours is also really cool. Do you think it's possible to salvage the one I've got before starting a new one?
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Maize, have you tried using any fabric glue meant for fraying? It can't hurt and it might fix it.
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OLChemist, I was planning to do some applique on a cloth strap for a shoulder bag. Should I back it in some way? I don't think it will unravel since it's not got any cuts in it and is woven for the purpose of being used on the bag...
What makes Cherokee stuff so beautiful is their use of negative space. The interplay between beaded areas and the fabric is what makes the designs distinctive. This makes it a tricky style because you have to have correct execution to get the pieces to drape and move right.

I've had an opportunity to examine two pieces of Martha Berry's work -- a bandoleer bag and a sash. The beading was done on heavy wool, with silk backing covering the stitching and silk ribbonwork on the edges. There were a number of things about the construction that weren't immediately apparent to me. For example some folks use paper while beading applique on cloth, then tear it away.

A shoulder strap gets a lot of wear. So, I'd recommend you to talk to one of the people who do "woodlands" or southeastern stuff. You want to do this right.
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My grandma has some she says. She just went to look for it. Thanks.
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What makes Cherokee stuff so beautiful is their us of negative space. The interplay between beaded areas and the fabric is what makes the designs distinctive. This makes it a tricky style because you have to have correct execution to get the pieces to crape and move right.

I've had an opportunity to examine two pieces of Martha Berry's work -- a bandoleer bag and a sash. The beading was done on heavy wool, with silk backing covering the stitching and silk ribbonwork on the edges. There were a number of things about the construction that weren't immediately apparent to me. For example some folks use paper while beading applique on cloth, then tear it away.

A shoulder strap gets a lot of wear. So, I'd recommend you to talk to one of the people who do "woodlands" or southeastern stuff. You want to do this right.
I've seen her work in an online photo gallery. It's amazing. I will look for those folks that do woodlands stuff.
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Got the rosette fixed... It's too big, but sis loves it anyways.

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I had to change the design of my bandoleer bag because mice got to the fox fur I had. They ate a huge hole in it. They also nibbled on my snake skin stash and ate a 1 lb bar of beeswax-parafin-oil (50-40-10) which I use to lube thread. grrrrr

New design is mostly cloth and has storage space for blowgun darts and maintenance stuff. When not in use for that, it can be used to carry art pens and stuff. On the bright side, there's more room for embroidery, ribbonwork, and beading now. I'm thinking of doing a motif of Hummingbirds carrying Old-Tobacco buds. I'm watching some videos on beaded applique on youtube to see how different effects are achieved because I want the depictions to be life-like. The idea for this design comes from a story about the retrieval of stolen tobacco by a medicine man who changed his shape to a hummingbird so he could get the buds and seeds without being seen by the thieves.
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