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Old 09-07-2007, 05:39 PM   #1
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what is the difference

What is the difference between Gord stitch and Peyote Stitch?

Is there a way to bead a vest fast - just the lazy stitch?
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Old 09-08-2007, 10:18 PM   #2
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I'm hoping that these are two totally different yet random questions.

As for Peyote vs Gourd, it depends on who you talk to and the book you are reading. Most classify Peyote as the bead running perpendicular to the length of the object. So lets just say you are beading a stick, the holes of the beads will go side to side if the stick is upright. Gourd stitch is usually when the holes of the beads go up and down on the same stick (I always called this brick stitch as it looks like brick laid on a wall). Hard to describe without pictures. Ultimately the terms get interchanged as I said depending on who you are talking to.

As for the vest, I think lazy/lane stitch would probably be the fastest way. Some people are just faster at appliqu though.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:00 PM   #3
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thank you for all the info! It really helped, now I have an idea of what the difference would be - I stared some arm bands this weekend - and i'm anxious to start the vest for my son - he's a big man - 6'3" traditional dancer - I'm wondering how much I need to order for him - to have just the front beaded on the vest - about 2 KILOS?
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Yep, I would say gourd is with the beads vertical around the stick,and that peyote stitch has the beads laying perpendicular. Whatever...anyway, just the opposite of what BeadMan said.

But that's the way I was taught loooong time 'go.
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I always thought that peyote was the one bead method and that gourd was the 3 bead method.. brick stitch was always just brick stitch
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I always thought that peyote was the one bead method and that gourd was the 3 bead method.. brick stitch was always just brick stitch
Can we say confusion
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:38 PM   #7
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Did I or did I not say that it depends on who you talk to.

I grew up in Oklahoma around beadworkers in the NE and central part of the state, and that is the way I learned it. There is no rule. Several years ago Chandler and Krazinski (sp) made a scientific breakdown of beadwork techniques, it was kinda cool. Peyote, gourd, and brick all fall under "netted" beadwork, it is just a very tight net. I don't think it goes beyond that as the main focus of the article was about woven (aka loom) beadwork.
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That's what my inlaws from Oklahoma told me as well Beadman. And they are right it's all a netted type of beadwork or also known as off loom beadweaving.
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I always thought that peyote was the one bead method and that gourd was the 3 bead method.. brick stitch was always just brick stitch
I'm with you BB, 'cept that Gourd stitch is 1 bead drop and Peyote is 2 bead drop. Brick stitch is brick stitch, but can also be called Commanche stitch. Now lets throw some wrap stitch in along with quill plaiting and we can all go to funny farm together!
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I was taught peyote and gourd stitch were the same thing, you have two methods, 2 & 3 drop method, the bead is || a verticle hole and brickstitch is another style of beading, the bead is like this = horizontal hole.......
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also known as off loom beadweaving.
The techniques in discussion are NOT weaving of any kind. That is a terrible term, where did you hear that? There is bead weaving that is not done on a loom, but I think this is even an odd term for that.
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Sounds like the NonNative term! No offense!
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Either Way...they are both tedious ways to bead...Peyote & Brick Stitch...sooo...I don't do much of either one...just the cylinders on spinners and that's good enough for me!!!
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what are cylinders on spinners?
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