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Old 06-19-2004, 06:00 PM   #1
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Question Help I Need Directions

I need to be pointed in the right direction on how to trace my Indian heritage and get it documented. I've searched web sites and I'm only getting more confused. My great grand parents were full cherokee as was my grandfather. I've always had this thing inside me pulling me toward my Indian heritage and now I'm finally acting on it. (better late than never.. right?) Everytime I brought it up to my friends or family they would tell me it will be a losing battle, but now, I am VERY DETERMINED!!!! So if anyone out there can help me in anyway, I will appreciate sooooooo much... Thanks
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Old 06-19-2004, 07:38 PM   #2
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If you pay the $39.95 up front and then make monthly installments for the next 6 months of 49.99 + taxes, then i think some of us will be willing to work with ya! :D
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If you pay the $39.95 up front and then make monthly installments for the next 6 months of 49.99 + taxes, then i think some of us will be willing to work with ya! :D
that's bad! FUNNY, but bad. no cookie for you!
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I'm sure "someone" will help out for a lot less, say $19.95. Will call it a "red" light special!:)
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If you pay the $39.95 up front and then make monthly installments for the next 6 months of 49.99 + taxes, then i think some of us will be willing to work with ya! :D
Seems to me that there is SOMEONE out there that can point me to the beginning of my journey. :indian1:
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just haven some fun. If you've got thin skin then you better lay low. "RED" tailed hawks are circlling. Looken for fresh meat! your best bet is talk with your family and tribal leaders in your area. good luck
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Seriously, your barking up the wrong tree if you want or need real help from any of us. You really need your family to help you out on this. There most likely "is" a reason why they won't discuss their native blood, if there is indeed any to be found... All you'll get here, are harsh answers to your questions, when really we can't help you. Sorry, and good luck!
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have their full names, birthdate and birthplace, date of death and then go talk to the clerics of both of the cherokee nations and see if they were recognized by either nation. If they were'nt .. then yeah , you're probably fighting a losing battle..sorry.
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I'm sure "someone" will help out for a lot less, say $19.95. Will call it a "red" light special!:)
wellll i have a limited time offer here today and NOW..its the WHITE light Special :42:

only fooorrrrrr 29.95..it will even give you access to a shaman

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wellll i have a limited time offer here today and NOW..its the WHITE light Special :42:

only fooorrrrrr 29.95..it will even give you access to a shaman
LMAO Burbs!! Hey you forgot to throw in an authentic Whipman for a small extra fee :31:

First 10 callers get this amazing offer......


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This is all for all the people that is showing hatred and dis for me simply cuz I have white blood in me. I can't help that my grandfather married a white woman as did my mother marry a white man. I had no control over that, just like I had no control over the blacks being brought here against their will. I know what I am and who I am. You do not know me at all but yet you quickly jump with racist sh*$.. All I see coming from native blood is rude and crude without knowing jack!
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Blackbear's advise is probably the best you're going to get. You need to talk with your family and see what they know cuz that will be your biggest help.
Yes. you didn't have any say in the matter when it came to your relatives and who they married, but you are a product of that union and maybe you should respect that they chose a different path.
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I am grateful for blackbear's advise. I do have all the info, unfortunately I don't have any family members to talk to or I would. I only wanted to find out where to take my info to. I wonder if it will be even worth the effort. .. Thanks
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After you have compiled Black Bear's list, here are your contacts and information_

The Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma, requires that you prove your are a lineal decendent to be enrolled in their tribe. For information relating to genealogy searching and registration, you may want to check the Cherokee Nation website under the " Registration" section. The Information provided may be of help to you. For further information or to receive the application(s) by snail mail, please contact the Registration Department at registration@cherokee.org or 918-456-0671, ext 2575 (toll free Okla. only 1-800-256-0671, ext.2575).

The Cherokee Heritage Center also has genealogist available to assist people in researching their Cherokee ancestry for a fee. : 918-456-6007

The Cherokee FIRST program has a volunteer initiative for free Dawes Roll lookups by email. You may send Roll look up requests to rolls@cherokee.org. To search the Guion Miller and Dawes rolls yourself (no waiting on an email reply), check out the NARA Archival Information Locator (NAIL).

Or AccessGenealogy.com - Dawes Roll Search (Recommended):
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As far as the Eastern Cherokee, here is their requirements:

TRIBAL ENROLLMENT

Enrollment in the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians is governed by tribal ordinance #284 dated June 24, 1996 and restricts enrollment to the following:

direct lineal ancestor must appear on the 1924 Baker Roll of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. (Note: The Baker Roll is the base roll of the Eastern Cherokee and contains the name, birthdate, Eastern Cherokee Blood quantum and roll number of the base enrollees.

Blood Quantum:must possess at least 1/16th degree of Eastern Cherokee blood. All criteria must be met in order to be eligible with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.

Enrollment is CLOSED to all people who cannot meet the above requirements.

GENEALOGY

The US Government conducted several censuses of the Cherokee both on a pre and post-removal basis. These rolls are printed in two publications called Cherokee Roots Vol. 1 (Eastern Cherokee) and Vol. 2 (Western Cherokee). They can be purchased from Cherokee Roots, P.O. Box 525, Cherokee, NC 28719. Vol. 1 costs $15.00 and Vol. 2 is $22.00. Both books can be purchased for $30.00. The company also has a research service available on a cost basis.

The following provide genealogy services and/or research assistance: Cherokee Roots (address/phone#listed above), Cherokee Qualla Public Library, Acquoni Rd, Cherokee NC 28719 (The library provides Tribal Enrollment records on microfilm. This services is free of charge and must be conducted on site. A name and date of birth is needed. The library staff is available to provide limited assistance. Open 8am - 4:30 pm Monday thru Friday), The Museum of The Cherokee Indian, P.O. Box 1599, Cherokee, NC 28719, On site service available only on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and is available by appointment only, 828-497-3481.

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Another web site loaded with research and genealogy connections: http://www.nativeweb.org

Genealogical and historic research assistance is also offered by James P. Myers, Jr. He will conduct roll searches and in-depth research if desired. Mail address: P.O. Box 682, Cherokee, NC 28719. Phone: 828-497-5662

The Dawes rolls of the Cherokee can be accessed through the Oklahoma Historical Society (405) 522-5209.

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Or AccessGenealogy.com - Dawes Roll Search :
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I hope this helps you on your quest to find your roots.

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Who me ,thanks a million times over! You are soooooo awesome. I have been wanting to do this for a long time but did not know how. This is like a dream coming true for me. Thank you again, truly from my heart!
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Take it from me lil wolf... there are alot of things said on here that ARE hateful and rude, but she was joking around.. nothing seemed to be directed at you.. just the joke was intermitted into the thread.... The longer you are here, the more you'll understand that joke and why it's so tempting to joke about LOL.
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I'm sorry about how I reacted, I've been around hatred for so long till I just automaticley get defensive. I'm a quick learner though. Thank you for your kindness!!!
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Blackbear: I'm sorry about how I reacted, I've been around hatred for so long till I just automaticley get defensive. I'm a quick learner though. Thank you for your kindness!!!
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Who me ,thanks a million times over! You are soooooo awesome. I have been wanting to do this for a long time but did not know how. This is like a dream coming true for me. Thank you again, truly from my heart!
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I am glad I could help.

I have been blessed many times over in my lifetime. One of these blessings is a job where I have access to information and networking with Indian tribes, organizations and people.

I feel that the Creator has put me on this earth to help others. So I am on a quest to fulfill this role. You have made my heart feel good knowing that I have made one person on this earth "truly happy!"

May you find your lifes dream with this information.

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