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Old 02-09-2001, 10:44 PM   #21
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And they dissapeared into the forest like ghosts.

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"STAY FOCUSED AND YOU SHALL BE GUIDED ON THE RIGHT TRAIL"

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Ve'ho'e
by Wayne Leman

Ve'ho'e,
a word that stirs the feelings
of us who are Cheyenne,
as much as any word
in any language can.

Ve'ho'e,
trickster guy,
we've long told stories about.
From centuries long past,
this guy from tribal genesis
continues still today
as our social nemesis.

Long before we met
the ones who now have ve'ho'e name
the ve'ho'e of our stories
had greedy, sneaky fame.

Ehehpetse he was in stories
wanting more
than he deserved.
Then when the paleface came on the scene
he was also ehehpetse,
so for him the name's reserved.

When we use this ve'ho'e word
we can speak in different ways.
We can put a person down
to wreck that person's days.

We warn the one who breaks the mold
he'll become like ve'ho'e man:
neve'ho'eve
neve'ho'eva'o
eve'ho'evoestomo'he
eve'ho'evetano
are far from a compliment.

Yet we also reflect comparison
with our things lower than
what is owned or built
by this ve'ho'e man
when we say some other words
of things we like to have,
like ve'ho'evo'ha,
beautiful horse,
or ve'ho'e-mhayo'o,
modern house.

We call the non-Indian preacher man
ma'heone-ve'ho'e, holy-whiteman,
but also call ones of our own
who preach or believe that way
the same name, ma'heone-ve'ho'e,
an intended put-down.

Ve'ho'e,
just saying this one word
can mean so much among ourselves
whenever it is heard.

We still like to repeat
the funny stories of old,
about the ve'ho'e character,
we laugh when these stories are told.

We laugh especially,
as our ancestors did long ago,
when people of our kind
win out at a story's end
over the guy with ve'ho'e mind.

And we say today with glee
of the ve'ho'e of our tales,
"It's just like him.
That's the way he acts.
Ehehpetse, his personality never fails."

But a switch has been made,
a most humorous one,
that we've even forgotten about.
We no longer mean the ve'ho'e of old,
before the paleface came,
but the new ve'ho'e we know today
who seems to act the same.
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I was gone for 1 day to go to a wedding and I come back to see if everyone has been good while I'm gone and I find this!

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"We Indians need allies, yet too often we reject non-Indians who support our right to follow traditional ways and who want to join us . . . If we were as self-assured as our grandpas, we would say, "What a compliment! They want to be part of us. Welcome!" If we were confident in ourselves, we would know that our forebears were attuned to the universe, that our ways are righteous and superior to Eurocentrism. Instead, most Indian people condemn and rebuff those who reject the white man's path and embrace our values."

-Russell Means
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From his autobiography, Where White Men Fear to Tread, 1996.
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"If the Great Spirit had desired me to be a white man,
he would have made me so in the first place.
He put in your heart certain wishes and plans;
in my heart he put other and different desires.
Each man is good in the sight of the Great Spirit.
It is not necessary that eagles should be crows."
... Sitting Bull
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"Everything the power of the world does is done in a circle. The life of man is a circle from childhood to childhood, and so it is in everything where power moves."

Black Elk----Oglala Sioux

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"We Indians live in a world of symbols where the spiritual and the common-place are one. To you, symbols are just words, spoken or written in a book. To us, they are part of nature, part of ourselves--the earth, the sun, the wind and the rain, stones, trees, animals, even little insects like ants and grasshoppers. We try to understand them not with the head but with the heart, and we need no more than a hint to give us the meaning."

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IF Tomorrow stands for what we pray, Than laugh with me through out today.


only for the self do words convey. This painless, priceless gift called yesterday.
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"I thought I was tired from dancing, but the drum said I wasn't tired."

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"I thought I was tired from dancing, but the drum said I wasn't tired."

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Bluewolf - that is awesome!!
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For 1dancing white wolf, this is to answer the question in your post from last month as to whose words are on that keyring of yours -

This is written on the back of a keyring that was a gift to me when I bought my home. I keep my house keys on it. There is no mention of who said it-if anyone recognizes it please tell me whose quote it is.

The quote as I have heard it begins with :

"You might as well expect the rivers to run backward as that any man who was born free should be contented penned up and denied liberty ..."

"Let me be a free man-free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to think and talk and act for myself."

These words were said by Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekht, 'Thunder Traveling to Loftier Heights', Chief Joseph - Nez Perce - on his January 1879 trip to Washington DC, before an audience of congressmen, cabinet members and other dignitaries.

Okay, and this one is for nativewind, who started this thread, and PMed me a while back wondering if I had any other words from Tantanka Iyotake, Sitting Bull - Hunkpapa Sioux ...

"Let the soldiers come and take me away and kill me, whatever they like. I am not afraid. I was born a warrior. I have followed the warpath ever since I was able to draw a bow."

Finally, some others -

"We did not ask you to come here we do not want your civilization - we would live as our fathers did and their fathers before them."
Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux

"I will follow the white man's trail. I will make him my friend, but I will not bend my back to his burdens. I will be cunning as a coyote. I will ask him to help me understand his ways, then I will prepare the way for my children. Maybe they will outrun him in their own shoes."
Many Horses - Oglala Sioux

The earth was placed here for us ... and we consider her our Mother. How much would you ask for if your Mother had been harmed? No amount of money can repay. Money cannot give birth to anything."
Asa Bazhnoodah - Navajo

"Will you ever begin to understand the meaning of the very soil beneath your feet? From a grain of sand to a great mountain, all is sacred. Yesterday and tomorrow exist eternally upon this continent. We natives are guardians of this sacred place."
Peter Blue Cloud - Mohawk


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Thank you Bearcat. The keyring is special because the words are symbolic of my personal freedom that I gained when I bought my home. After many years of being dependant on someone else to keep a roof over my and my sons' heads, we now have a permanent freedom, because we are beholden to no one for a place to call home.
When I closed on the house the last thing I did before I signed the last paper, was to read the words on the keyring. Kind of a prayer-the white folks in the room were even touched by it.

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dON'T JUMP TO CONFUSIONS.
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All we ask is to be allowed to live, and to live in peace... We bowed to the will of the great father and went south. There we found a cheyenne cannot live, so we came home. Better it was, we thought to die fighting than to perish of sickness. You may kill me here, but you cannot make me go back. We will not go. The only way to get us there is to come in here with clubs and knives and knock us on the head, and drag us there dead.

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