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Old 07-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #41
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:36 PM   #42
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hey princess there is common everyday racism and institutionalized racism and scientific racism and we are a victim to all 3 in our own country.......i never heard of an indian gettin down in the dumps about it though

we carry on regardless
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:26 AM   #43
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hey princess there is common everyday racism and institutionalized racism and scientific racism and we are a victim to all 3 in our own country...
No, we're NOT.

You're only a victim if/when you allow yourself to be so. (Far too many Natives not only allow this but welcome it as a way of life that has -- somehow -- morphed into being traditional.)

I used to work in prisons. Regardless of what occurred to get an inmate into prison, there was a very common and crude metaphor about what kind of individual you were going to be once sentenced.

Paraphrased, it was "you can take my bum but I'm not going to give it to you."

Calling ourselves victims is giving it away.
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No, we're NOT.

You're only a victim if/when you allow yourself to be so. (Far too many Natives not only allow this but welcome it as a way of life that has -- somehow -- morphed into being traditional.)

I used to work in prisons. Regardless of what occurred to get an inmate into prison, there was a very common and crude metaphor about what kind of individual you were going to be once sentenced.

Paraphrased, it was "you can take my bum but I'm not going to give it to you."

Calling ourselves victims is giving it away.
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zeke i am on the same page as you with self accountability and responsibility.....and possibly education

but i disagree with you that sometimes you make it seem like the playing field is level.....it NEVER has been and NEVER will be...i learned to accept that to a certain degree with my own experiences

now here is an article that ties in with our other discussion on the cnn thread which i think is a good example because i bet an indian would still be sitting in prison

James Ray, leader of Arizona sweat lodge, freed from prison
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If you believe the field is not level and never can be, you must also believe that we're not and never will be equals in society.

I reject that premise.
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