earlier lifes ago...

[TeenaBear]

most kind, thank you

by the way i am a full blood sla'pahoe

pleased to meet you

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[milehighsalute]

Wow-I thought all of you guys were hiding in the mountains with those Cherokee who didn't want to be moved.

us SLA'PAHOE never hide. SLA'PAHOE pride!!!

[subeeds]

most kind, thank you

by the way i am a full blood sla'pahoe

pleased to meet you

Wow-I thought all of you guys were hiding in the mountains with those Cherokee who didn't want to be moved.

[milehighsalute]

i want to thank you too
for supporting me and pleased to meet you too elder

[White Powwow Dancer]

Here is a very fundamental difference in worldview between European and American cultures and most of our cultures.

My people place great emphasis on children learning proper kinship behavior. Every level of consanguineal (blood), affinal (marriage) and ficitive (social) kinship binds one into a web of mutual support and obligations. You are to a great extent bounded by your relationship to those around you.

If these ties do not exist, you are not part of our nation. This is not a judgement; it is fact. No level of imagined rapport will make up for these ties. They are at the heart of our social structure and cohesion as a People.

Yes, like all groups we choose to enfold outsiders in the bonds of affinal and fictive kinship. But there is a key point in the prior sentence: "we choose." One of the fundamental activities of any group is determining who is a member. When outsiders declare themselves part of us by virtue of a "Red Heart", "Indian Spirit" or whatever metaphor they use, they are attacking our sovereignty. It is the equivalent of me getting off the plane at Arlanda, going to the nearest family get together, declaring myself a long-lost cousin, eating all the kroppkakor, and voting in the local election.


A piece of advice:

My people have stories about a Spirit that violates our culture's most fundamental and strict rules, and delights in tricking others into behaving in deviant ways, much to their woe. He does things like tricking mothers into eating a stew made from their babies. He lies and tells people what they want to hear to make fools or worse of them. His associates occasionally appear at ceremony and grants people the literal interpretation of their wishes, sometimes to their great regret.

Like[MENTION=21858]Joe's Dad[/MENTION]'s says: Beware those that tell you exactly what you want to hear. They may be trying to trick you into eating your children.

Very well said.

[OLChemist]

and im tired being judged cause im swedish or that i've not grew up in a family with any of these tribes cultures clans groups

Here is a very fundamental difference in worldview between European and American cultures and most of our cultures.

My people place great emphasis on children learning proper kinship behavior. Every level of consanguineal (blood), affinal (marriage) and ficitive (social) kinship binds one into a web of mutual support and obligations. You are to a great extent bounded by your relationship to those around you.

If these ties do not exist, you are not part of our nation. This is not a judgement; it is fact. No level of imagined rapport will make up for these ties. They are at the heart of our social structure and cohesion as a People.

Yes, like all groups we choose to enfold outsiders in the bonds of affinal and fictive kinship. But there is a key point in the prior sentence: "we choose." One of the fundamental activities of any group is determining who is a member. When outsiders declare themselves part of us by virtue of a "Red Heart", "Indian Spirit" or whatever metaphor they use, they are attacking our sovereignty. It is the equivalent of me getting off the plane at Arlanda, going to the nearest family get together, declaring myself a long-lost cousin, eating all the kroppkakor, and voting in the local election.


A piece of advice:

My people have stories about a Spirit that violates our culture's most fundamental and strict rules, and delights in tricking others into behaving in deviant ways, much to their woe. He does things like tricking mothers into eating a stew made from their babies. He lies and tells people what they want to hear to make fools or worse of them. His associates occasionally appear at ceremony and grants people the literal interpretation of their wishes, sometimes to their great regret.

Like[MENTION=21858]Joe's Dad[/MENTION]'s says: Beware those that tell you exactly what you want to hear. They may be trying to trick you into eating your children.

[lbgood]

Oh I wouldn't have pegged you for a cry baby, you must hanging around someone we know and it's rubbing off on you..

I think I will just stick to the arcade

[Grits & Beans]

Really lbgood?

[lbgood]

he was of the fuquowi tribe i think....not sure.......maybe he was wah-nabi......though every time i hear that tribe is extinct i meet a family of them

I've hurd of that tribe too, if I am correct they call their chief "O-B-one Wah-nabi" and they have a Tribal Princess they refer to as "Princess Lay-ya" from wut I understand she is a member of powwows.com with a username of (Grits & Beans).

[Joe's Dad]

All because you think he agrees with you, anybody else who has a different view than yours you have no respect for - it appears.

Majority of the people who will agree with you are other non-indianz because they want to justify/support their own distorted sense of reality and others who may appear to agree with you out of sarcasm.

Bottom line is you are non-Indian, putting on make shift indian regalia will not make you indian, it will make you a non-indian wearing a make shift indian regalia. You are not indian, you were born non-indian, that is what the creator made you - embrace it.

I'm not trying to be mean, I am just being blunt because people such as your self tend to discount others view when it doesn't align with your views. If you are hell bent on proceeding with a romanticized fantasy of being an indian, then maybe go to Germany and you all can play Indians together.

I am NOT judging you - I am telling you like it is! Just my two cents!

Wow! Now I'm not gonna respect you in the morning.

Good words, lbgooder

[Joe's Dad]

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she did practice it in peru but she lives in sweden

Did you perhaps ask her what her spirit might have been in an earlier life.

Did it ever cross your mind she used her Inca medicone powers to see you before you walked in the door.

Not all medicine people use their powers for the good of mankind. I'm thinking she just told you what you wanted to
hear. A real medicine person would have told you how you got your name, where you lived and how you died.

Sid she tell you those things??? Doesn't sound like she did or you wouldn't be here asking foolish (yes...I said foolish) questions that can never be answered.

[wardancer]

she did practice it in peru but she lives in sweden

I find that difficult to believe and would warn that I believe you are being mis-informed ! You are trying to attain something that is not possible.

[MadTurkey]

most kind, thank you

by the way i am a full blood sla'pahoe

pleased to meet you

i want to thank you too
for supporting me and pleased to meet you too elder

[lbgood]

most kind, thank you

by the way i am a full blood sla'pahoe

pleased to meet you

[lbgood]

and im tired being judged cause im swedish or that i've not grew up in a family with any of these tribes cultures clans groups , you are the only one so far i want to show respect for on this forum

All because you think he agrees with you, anybody else who has a different view than yours you have no respect for - it appears.

Majority of the people who will agree with you are other non-indianz because they want to justify/support their own distorted sense of reality and others who may appear to agree with you out of sarcasm.

Bottom line is you are non-Indian, putting on make shift indian regalia will not make you indian, it will make you a non-indian wearing a make shift indian regalia. You are not indian, you were born non-indian, that is what the creator made you - embrace it.

I'm not trying to be mean, I am just being blunt because people such as your self tend to discount others view when it doesn't align with your views. If you are hell bent on proceeding with a romanticized fantasy of being an indian, then maybe go to Germany and you all can play Indians together.

I am NOT judging you - I am telling you like it is! Just my two cents!