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  • WomanfromOz
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    Dear Joe's Dad

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  • Joe's Dad
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    Hey, I part Cherokee! Wachu look like? Send a photo of your beadwork.

    JD is here to check out the pretty ladies!

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  • LISA IRONMAKER
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    Originally posted by WomanfromOz View Post
    Thank you :)
    Your Welcome!!

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  • WomanfromOz
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    Dear Lisa Ironmaker

    Originally posted by LISA IRONMAKER View Post
    Hi welcome to pws.com enjoy!!
    Thank you :)

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  • WomanfromOz
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    Originally posted by subeeds View Post
    Hi and welcome.
    If you look to the left of the thread, you will see the listings "Resources for Teachers, and one for Scouts. You can find more info there. Click on Forum Home, scroll down to General, and you will find sections on Ancestry and Genealogy and Native Issues. Native Issues also includes a recipe section. This forum also has a lot of videos of the different dances-all taken at different powwows.

    As for whackadoodles, yes, we have had our fair share over the years. LOL!
    Dear Subeeds,

    Thank you so much for your help. We've got plenty of those over here too :)

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  • LISA IRONMAKER
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    Hi welcome to pws.com enjoy!!

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  • subeeds
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    Hi and welcome.
    If you look to the left of the thread, you will see the listings "Resources for Teachers, and one for Scouts. You can find more info there. Click on Forum Home, scroll down to General, and you will find sections on Ancestry and Genealogy and Native Issues. Native Issues also includes a recipe section. This forum also has a lot of videos of the different dances-all taken at different powwows.

    As for whackadoodles, yes, we have had our fair share over the years. LOL!

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  • WomanfromOz
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    Dear OLChemist

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  • OLChemist
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    More of Rose's Completely Biased (Short) Guide Can't Miss Sights/Events in Indian Country

    Fly into Billing, MT, drive out to Crow Agency and go to the tipi capital of the world, Crow Fair. Learn how three pole and four pole tipis look different. Go to the powwow and see how many elk tooth dresses you can count. Watch the rodeo and the Indian relay horse races. Then watch the parade dance at the end.

    Crow Fair

    Then drive down the Little Bighorn Battlefield and then go down to Wyoming to Yellowstone National Park.


    Or got to Oklahoma City, OK for Red Earth. Go to the powwow and art market. Enjoy some fine Southern powwow singing. Then drive over to Anadarko to visit the Southern Plains Indian Museum. Or go northeast and head into Tahlequah and learn about your Cherokee kin.

    Red Earth
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  • OLChemist
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    Believe it or don't but I'm one of the nice ones, LOL. There are more then a few Indians who would have had you for lunch with a side of fries.

    Seriously, we encounter a lot of folks, especially from overseas, who have only seen movies, watched documentaries and read books about Indians. Frequently, they have -- shall we say -- a less than nuanced view of Native life. They tend to romanticize and homogenize our cultures. On the internet it's impossible to know a person beyond what is written. We react from our experiences.

    I read your post and some of it came off as pretty romantic/stereotypical. So, yes, I went into college professor mode and lectured. (And, yes, I did miss my Sarcastics Anonymous meeting this week.) Sorry for the assumptions. Do be aware you will encounter the above type of response frequently in Indian Country if you bring up "spirit guides" and psychic powers, or start your introduction with your DNA test or discussions of "papers." Just a friendly warning.


    As for the nasty comments at powwows, one fair skinned mixed blood to another, you will hear them. Indian people are just that people. Some are nice, some aren't. Some a polite some aren't. Some are just plain jerks. Colonization isn't a pretty process. It's isn't calculated to make people tender-hearted. History walks with all of us. Institutional racism affects all of us -- Indian and non-. I'm sure you've seen this with your Aboriginal friends.


    DNA tests and Native identity:

    SNP's do not an Indian make. There is no genetic memory. Native identity -- like all human cultural associations -- is created within the framework of kin and community. It grows on language, geography, spirituality and shared history. It is learned not inborn.

    I say this not to shut you out, but to give hope. Once you do the leg work and find your kin, if you approach with a humble heart and a spirit of service you can learn.

    http://forums.powwows.com/f114/does-...igenous-70281/
    When I get out of the lab, I'll post some more of my short list.
    Last edited by OLChemist; 07-11-2018, 12:59 PM. Reason: Forgot something profound, LOL. Wrong link

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  • WomanfromOz
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  • WomanfromOz
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    Dear OlChemist,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to reply again. I really appreciate it. That’s the kind of information I was looking for. I have watched a lot of Powwow dancing on YouTube and I love watching Grass Dancers and Chicken Dancers in Regalia.

    I’m looking forward to visiting America soon.

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  • wardancer
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    " Originally Posted by WomanfromOz
    My mother and I have always been interested in Native American culture, jewellery, medicine, spirit religion etc. We both have always used natural medicine and have always been very spiritual. We are both Clairvoyant and have always wondered where it came from. I'm not sure if we have the same spirit guides but are very intune with nature and animals."

    So this is NOT thinking stereotypical ? BUH ! You think we're all in tune with nature ? Clairvoyant ? Wow , you should apologize to Ol'Chemist cause that's straight up stereotypical crap right there. You should just come to the States and give lectures on how ndns should act ! Geez....I'm done

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  • wardancer
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    Originally posted by WomanfromOz View Post

    Proven by DNA.
    DNA doesn't prove "Tribe" nor does it actually prove Degree of ndn blood. but hey , good luck with it !

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  • wardancer
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    Originally posted by WomanfromOz View Post
    Dear OLChemist,

    I'm sorry but I cannot believe how mean you've been. I don't know you, and it's my first time on here.

    You have made a lot of assumptions about me and my post that have deeply offended me. Everyone makes assumptions by what and how you say things. Get over it !

    I don't have ANY stereotypical ideas of Native American culture. "Modern" natives??? My grandfather was 1/2 Native American dude! Proven by DNA. Not some ancient relative I heard stories about. My mothers father was a Native American man. You obviously DO because of the things you say !

    Also, my ex boyfriend was a "Modern" Native American so I pretty much know what Native culture is. He was a Hopi/Pueblo Indian from Colorado. He was full Native and didn't live on a Reservation and worked for the Military. So yes, I know Native Americans aren't all "tree huggers who live in tipi's" as you put it. I've done a lot of research on modern and ancient Native culture. The good, the bad and the ugly truth of what non-natives have done to Native people and culture.

    Where did I ever mention a tipi???

    I also grew up in a very small Reservation town here with many Australian Aboriginal friends. So I know how Native people live these days thank you. I watch NITV here in Australia and it has many Documentaries on current living conditions and Native issues of all Native cultures. We are not under any illusions here in Australia, thank you.

    It's not my fault that my Great Grandmother didn't stay in a relationship with my Grandfathers father and moved here to Australia.

    Not going for any metaphors, when I say "plains" it's what I relate to the Australian outback. I'll say "land" if that makes you feel better.It probably wouldn't make a difference !

    Well, if my Grandfather's father hadn't ( disappeared ) on my Grandmother we would know which tribe he was from exactly wouldn't we??? She claimed she didn't know what ethnicity the father was.

    To be honest I was hesitant about mentioning that I matched Cherokee people because I have heard everyone in America claims that. Well I don't have a family Cherokee story and I'm not after Native American benefits.That's mostly a myth as well !About all we really get is a hard time !

    I would just like to be recognised as what I am instead of "What are you?" "Are you Eurasian?" "Are you Chinese or something?"

    That's what I meant by being accepted.
    You would always be an outsider , doesn't matter how you think. It takes years and years of hanging around , helping , taking part in activities to even think about being accepted as a visitor , and I doubt you'd ever be accepted as an ndn. You'd have to find your family for that to happen !I don't want to move to a reservation. I have a house here. I honestly hoped that I could make some Native American friends here that would accept me as part Native. It's pretty lonely when I don't know any other part Native Americans in my country. Because it is a world away from America.

    I wanted to visit a Reservation for a cultural exchange and to feel more connected to my grandfather. He died a month before I was born so I didn't get to meet him. All I have is photographs of him that look like Native American men from the 1800's and early 1900's.

    Why would I hear a nasty comment or two at a Powwow?? I look part Native. You're assuming I'm some blonde, bimbo looking flaky girl, claiming to be an Indian Princess or something. Wrong.

    My skin is light but why would people say nasty things. I am a very humble person.
    Because you are still an outsider and the locals can tell that ! I don't appreciate the level of judgement I have received here.I didn't expect this but at least I thought someone would send me a polite message of guidance rather than a snappy toned comments. We don't really care !

    The arena isn't about you? What does that even mean? Why would I make the arena about me when I'm a guest on the tribal owned land of the Powwow organisers? Who would be that rude or clueless? Almost every outsider that comes to a powwow ! They have no clue about what it's all about , how to act , the dos and don'ts. They just get out there and go "Oh look at me , I'm an ndn"

    I hoped to make friends on here and hopefully make a friend that I could visit on or off a Reservation for a culture exchange. I didnt post to offend anyone.
    And maybe you will if you don't get all mad about little crap !
    It would be nice to make a meaningful friendship with someone (hopefully a man because I'm single) who shares my Ancestry instead of being shunned for not being 100% Native American. Most folks on here are not 100% native. But it's not a dating site !

    I sincerely apologise if I offended you in any way with my post OLChemist. It was not my intent. I wish you well and appreciate your taking the time to reply. I shall find another Native American forum to look for friends to meet and hope to have better luck making connections there before I fly over for my holiday.
    With all that said , welcome to powwows.calm ! I assure you nobody is offended ! we get lots of posts like this and most who get the lecture storm off with even worse attitude than you. The thing is , we live this life everyday. It's not some mystical crap , it's real life with real problems that have been going on for centuries. We don't get free stuff(most of us), we work , pay taxes , try to live the american dream(LOL) and when we can afford to , we powwow with our friends and family.Good luck in your quest......and watch your step in those other forums ! Some of them are brutal ! LOL

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