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    ( Tom Netz )Chief Soft Shell Turtle is a fraud.

    Tom Netz from Toledo Ohio, is still at his fraudulent ways.
    Tom Netz is now calling him self a native American activists.
    Has also claimed Potowanomie, Seneca, Shawnee, and (of course) Cherokee.
    He took a course with Twylah Nitche, if you ask him, he might show you his certificate.

    I hope the moderator don’t deleted this post for the third time.
    If any new information on the man contact me [email protected]
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    Last edited by Nishnawbe10; 08-28-2004, 12:34 AM.

  • #2
    More on the man

    here is a link more About Tom Netz

    http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/frauds/frd0049.htm

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    • #3
      Thanks for the info. Claiming Lumbee is becoming just as common for white folk to do just like they claim to have that great grandmother who is Cherokee. Thanks for revealing him as a fraud. I've never heard of him.
      Fool me once, shame on u. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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      • #4
        Tom Netz

        Nishnawbe10,

        Hello and Greetings Joseph. I have to say I was surprised to see this thread. Glad to see you are back with this. I figured that the subject had just gotten a bit weak as more and more people were getting to know the truth about Tom Netz. I had no idea that the threads were being eliminated. Any ideas as to why?

        After seeing this thread, I did some random researching and saw the usually old references to Tom Netz. But I did see some new stuff that indicates he is still calling himself a Chief and gonig by the Title: Chief Soft Shell Turtle.

        It appears that he was the Chief Soft Shell Turtle at Vincennes in Indiana, Ft. Ancient in Ohio and will be at the Piqua Heritage Festival in Ohio in September.

        Other news is just rumor and have no confirmation. Those rumors are:

        He disbanded the Drum after receiving some death threats. Heard he did this at an event in Indiana.

        He is not welcomed at the Tiffin Heritage Festival in Ohio anymore.

        That is all I have heard. Not much talk about him as it appeared the threads were getting the info out to the people.

        Have no idea what Tribe he is claiming this summer though.

        So what kind of Indian Activist is he now?

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        • #5
          Indian activist ( Tom Netz.)

          Link ot the site >> http://www.ibsgwatch.imagedjinn.com/...oct09meigs.htm

          News Items
          Fort Meigs may go on parks ‘watch list’
          Article published Wednesday, October 9, 2002

          http://www.toledoblade.com/

          An official from the National Parks Service’s Midwest Archeological Center is recommending that Fort Meigs State Memorial Park in Perrysburg be placed on a "watch list" compiled by the federal agency in its biennial Landmarks At Risk report.

          Vergil Noble, supervisory archaeologist at the park service’s Lincoln, Neb., regional office, attended a meeting last night at Sanger Branch of the Toledo-Lucas County Public Library with top officials from Ohio Historical Society, which oversees Fort Meigs, and Native American Alliance of Ohio, a group of Indian activists.

          Mr. Noble said after the meeting his preliminary look at issues at the fort made him recommend moving it from its "satisfactory" status to "watch."

          "Fully half the National Historic Landmarks in the country are on the "watch" or "threatened" lists," he said. "This is nothing extraordinary. Of the six NHS archeological sites in Ohio, three are on ‘watch’ status, if you include Meigs."

          Mr. Noble said his report on the fort is finished and has been sent to park service headquarters in Washington. The listing, he said, is a "mandate to monitor the situation, and determine the need for our technical assistance, if it’s needed.

          "It merely means conditions may develop that would cause us concern," he said. "It brings an extra degree of awareness. There’s a need for heightened awareness anytime there’s a historic site in an urban area."

          Mr. Noble will meet with historical society officials today; he remained silent through most of last night’s meeting.

          When Native American remains were unearthed during a construction project at Fort Meigs last year, historical society officials reburied some remains and removed others and shipped them to a laboratory in Columbus for study and storage. When the quiet removals went public, Native Americans took issue with how the state-sponsored historical group collects and maintains remains and artifacts they see as part of their heritage.

          Tom Netz, an Indian activist, said Ohio’s sometimes-contentious tribes and nations can use the issues to overcome differences and join to advise museums on how to handle the stories, artifacts, and structures Native Americans left behind.

          The Ohio Historical Society-Indian dialog included the presentation of a draft policy on how historical society workers will, from now on, respond when human remains turn up.

          As instituted in February by Rachel Tooker, the historical society’s chief operations officer, workers will leave their finds in place if possible, and follow clear-cut procedures when other artifacts are found.

          Meantime, volunteers from the Native American Alliance will contact representatives of more than a dozen Indian groups who might want a voice in advising historical and legislative groups on Indian history, culture, and affairs.

          "We will invite them all, even the ‘New Age’ Indians and the ones who obviously don’t know very much about their culture," said Barbara Mann, an alliance spokeswoman. "If they stay, they’ll learn something about their culture. And when they see there’s actual work to be done, the ones who are [insincere] will fall away."

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          • #6
            Interesting

            Okay.

            October, 2002 huh? Can't say that I have heard any talk about this side of Tom Netz. Wonder why Tom has not used this as another "feather in his cap" across the Native Community since 2002?

            Of course, it could be that Tom knew not to brag because an if this really got into State and Federal Issues it could involve NAGPRA and that would really open "a can of worms" as Tom would be caught in all his lies.

            And this makes you realize that the one time that Tom Netz could have been caught in all his lies would also back fire and hurt the goal of getting the Native Artifacts back where they belong.

            Gee, thanks alot Tom for hurting the people again.

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            • #7
              Alan "Spotted wolf" Champney..Is doing the same..You wood a thought he had learned....http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/frauds/frd0036.htm
              The Creator gives us truth :

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              • #8
                Hi
                Thanks for the info on this dirtbag.
                Asema Is Sacred
                Traditional Use, Not Misuse
                Wakan Tanka please have compassion on me.
                OK Niji we are running a train with red over yellow at this powwow.

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                • #9
                  Chief Littlefeather of the Binays is Selling Membership

                  I came across this site:

                  www.blackindians.com

                  They have tribal membership available for anybody. Supposedly it's a free membership but if payment is sent, free perks are available.

                  Here's the link:

                  http://www.blackindians.com/ApplicationForm.htm

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                  • #10
                    more on the man part 1

                    Tom Netz, lies to the public and continues today’s. He teaches the culture he made or what Twylah Nitche had taught him. He continues today to educated school children, and to talk at conventions. And he is involved with many other native American activist groups in the Ohio and Indianan area.

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                    • #11
                      Fort Meigs may go on parks ‘watch list’

                      From the Toledo blade http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...0090070&Ref=AR

                      Article published Wednesday, October 9, 2002

                      Fort Meigs may go on parks ‘watch list’

                      An official from the National Parks Service’s Midwest Archeological Center is recommending that Fort Meigs State Memorial Park in Perrysburg be placed on a "watch list" compiled by the federal agency in its biennial Landmarks At Risk report.

                      Vergil Noble, supervisory archaeologist at the park service’s Lincoln, Neb., regional office, attended a meeting last night at Sanger Branch of the Toledo-Lucas County Public Library with top officials from Ohio Historical Society, which oversees Fort Meigs, and Native American Alliance of Ohio, a group of Indian activists.

                      Mr. Noble said after the meeting his preliminary look at issues at the fort made him recommend moving it from its "satisfactory" status to "watch."

                      "Fully half the National Historic Landmarks in the country are on the "watch" or "threatened" lists," he said. "This is nothing extraordinary. Of the six NHS archeological sites in Ohio, three are on ‘watch’ status, if you include Meigs."

                      Mr. Noble said his report on the fort is finished and has been sent to park service headquarters in Washington. The listing, he said, is a "mandate to monitor the situation, and determine the need for our technical assistance, if it’s needed.

                      "It merely means conditions may develop that would cause us concern," he said. "It brings an extra degree of awareness. There’s a need for heightened awareness anytime there’s a historic site in an urban area."

                      Mr. Noble will meet with historical society officials today; he remained silent through most of last night’s meeting.

                      When Native American remains were unearthed during a construction project at Fort Meigs last year, historical society officials reburied some remains and removed others and shipped them to a laboratory in Columbus for study and storage. When the quiet removals went public, Native Americans took issue with how the state-sponsored historical group collects and maintains remains and artifacts they see as part of their heritage.

                      Tom Netz, an Indian activist, said Ohio’s sometimes-contentious tribes and nations can use the issues to overcome differences and join to advise museums on how to handle the stories, artifacts, and structures Native Americans left behind.

                      The Ohio Historical Society-Indian dialog included the presentation of a draft policy on how historical society workers will, from now on, respond when human remains turn up.

                      As instituted in February by Rachel Tooker, the historical society’s chief operations officer, workers will leave their finds in place if possible, and follow clear-cut procedures when other artifacts are found.

                      Meantime, volunteers from the Native American Alliance will contact representatives of more than a dozen Indian groups who might want a voice in advising historical and legislative groups on Indian history, culture, and affairs.

                      "We will invite them all, even the ‘New Age’ Indians and the ones who obviously don’t know very much about their culture," said Barbara Mann, an alliance spokeswoman. "If they stay, they’ll learn something about their culture. And when they see there’s actual work to be done, the ones who are [insincere] will fall away."

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                      • #12
                        part 2

                        Now as you can read as above Tom Netz, had lied to many and he is still on the go. Last I heard he still claims to be native.

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                        • #13
                          hey there
                          Last edited by middle of the sky; 02-20-2008, 08:21 PM. Reason: i was fooled bout sumthin

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                          • #14
                            Storytelling and Flute Playing

                            Tom “Soft Shell Turtle” Netz - Storytelling and Flute Playing - Listen to Soft Shell Turtle as he shares the traditional stories and music of his people and the Native American vision of balance between Mother Earth, plants, animals, and people. Learn how to make your own medicine bag with Soft Shell Turtle at his lodge.

                            Sat. 10:30, 12:00, and 3:00
                            Sun 11:00 and 2:00
                            Read more at this link >>> http://www.spiritofvincennes.org/childrens.htm

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                            • #15
                              Throughout the year Indian Chief Soft Shell Turtle visits the lodge frequently for storytelling.
                              At the Sawmill Creek Lodge and Resort in Ohio

                              Read more at this website >>> http://www.oweb.com/Advertiser-Tribu...s.html#Sawmill

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