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    Lumbee recognition bill must start over

    By Venita Jenkins
    Staff writer


    LUMBERTON - An effort to pass the Lumbee Acknowledgement Act as part of a spending bill failed Saturday, meaning the tribe will have to begin its recognition efforts anew next year, one lawmaker said.

    Sen. Elizabeth Dole, a Republican from Salisbury, tried to add the Lumbee legislation to an omnibus appropriations bill that provides money for projects such as road repairs and beach erosion.

    "Our goal is to try to find a vehicle to get the Lumbee bill attached. There was a block on this vehicle,'' said Brian Nick, a spokesman in Dole's office. "Senator Dole will continue to work on the bill during the next Congress.''

    Dole and U.S. Rep. Mike McIntyre, a Democrat from Lumberton, each submitted legislation in February 2003 that would provide federal recognition to the Lumbees. The tribe has more than 50,000 members with the majority living in Robeson and surrounding counties.

    Federal recognition could mean more than $400 million over four years to help the tribe with education, economic development, housing and health care.

    Congress recognized the tribe in 1956 through the Lumbee Act, but the law denied the tribe benefits and privileges that other federally recognized tribes receive.

    The Lumbees have petitioned the federal government at least nine times for recognition. The first attempt was in 1888.

    Tribal members and Dole testified before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs in September 2003. The committee forwarded the bill to the Senate, where it stalled.

    Members of the House Resources Committee heard testimony in April. The bill did not come out of committee.

    "The effort to achieve federal recognition for the Lumbee Indians will begin anew and in earnest when the 109th Congress convenes in January 2005,'' McIntyre said. "With 232 co-sponsors, we have a strong foundation on which we can continue to build to secure this much-deserved recognition. The fight will continue until the victory is achieved.''

    Groundwork done


    Lawyer Arlinda Locklear, who is Lumbee, is working with the tribe to gain federal recognition. Locklear said important groundwork has been done.

    "We have gotten pretty far along the road,'' Locklear said. "We have commitments and support from members of both the House and Senate. We think that will be very helpful in moving the bill next year.''

    Opposition to the tribe's efforts has been a stumbling block.

    "Part of the problem is the Eastern Band of the Cherokee had blocked us at every turn,'' Locklear said. "Unfortunately, the Eastern Band does not understand a lot of the Lumbee history. It's harder to get the truth out about the Lumbee tribe.''

    Opponents, including the Eastern Band of Cherokee, have argued that the Lumbees should go through the Department of Interior to gain federal recognition. However, language in the 1956 Lumbee Act prevents the tribe from doing that.

    U.S. Rep. Charles Taylor, a Republican from Brevard, submitted legislation in March 2003 that would allow the Lumbees to go through the process established by the Department of Interior.

    The Eastern Band of Cherokee is the only federally recognized tribe in North Carolina. The Eastern Band has opposed federal acknowledgment of the Lumbees since at least 1910. Principal Chief Michell Hicks testified before the House Resources Committee.

    "I am pleased that Lumbee recognition did not pass,'' Hicks told the Cherokee One Feather newspaper in a release Tuesday. "The Eastern Band has a long standing position that Congress should not directly federally recognize the Lumbee or any other group as an Indian tribe. There is a process at Interior that weeds out the real from the pretend. We think it should be allowed to work.''

    The tribe plans to regroup and begin lobbying again in January. The tribe is paying a lobbyist $10,000 a month to help. It is considering hiring additional help.

    "This means we will have to start all over again,'' Locklear said. "It will be up to the committees on how we will proceed. We may have to testify again, or the committees may rely on the previous records. Whatever their pleasure is is what we will do. We will do our best to move this forward.''

    Staff writer Venita Jenkins can be reached at [email protected] or (910) 738-9158
    "We see it as a desecration not only of a mountain but of our way of life. This is a genocidal issue to us. If they kill this mountain, they kill our way of life." ~Debra White Plume

  • #2
    wow, that's a pretty rough comment coming from this Hicks guy.
    Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.sigpic

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    • #3
      You know I'd like to know what release to the Cherokee One Feather they are talking about, just went through the entire paper and there was absolutely nothing in there about this!!! is this another false reporting again????
      Before you attempt to beat the odds, make sure you can survive the odds beating you!

      Why do some people bother breathing when you know their brain isn't getting the oxygen?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FancyStar
        You know I'd like to know what release to the Cherokee One Feather they are talking about, just went through the entire paper and there was absolutely nothing in there about this!!! is this another false reporting again????
        There's a great deal about this posted at www.indianz.com....
        many articles about Lumbee recognition there last several days..didn't see the newspaper reference there, tho.
        C

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mato Winyan
          "I am pleased that Lumbee recognition did not pass,'' Hicks told the Cherokee One Feather newspaper in a release Tuesday. "The Eastern Band has a long standing position that Congress should not directly federally recognize the Lumbee or any other group as an Indian tribe. There is a process at Interior that weeds out the real from the pretend. We think it should be allowed to work.''
          Blackbear, Michel Hicks is the Easten Bands Chief. He's been bad mouthing us since the moment he got in office.

          This guy went to the DC hearing with a prewritten speech, of which all the points he had raised had allready been addressed by the time it was his turn to speak! He looked kinda stupid by replying No (on several occasions), when asked by Arlinda Locklear if he was aware of certain things!

          Apparently he doesn't know (or care to know) anything about us other than the BS his speechwriters hand to him! If only he would try spending a little less time talking and a little more listening!

          Hell, I'm still trying to figure out why the Lumbee federal recognition hearing is the only one he showed up at (i.e. No appearence at the hearing which would recognize six tribes in VA for example). And how come the Easten Band never showed up opposing the 20+ tribes that have allready recieved congressional recognition since the establishment of the BIA criteria?

          Maybe its just me, but some things just are'nt adding up here!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mato Winyan

            "Unfortunately, the Eastern Band does not understand a lot of the Lumbee history.
            Could Mrs. Locklear be on to something here? :seenoevil

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lumbeedancer

              Hell, I'm still trying to figure out why the Lumbee federal recognition hearing is the only one he showed up at (i.e. No appearence at the hearing which would recognize six tribes in VA for example). And how come the Easten Band never showed up opposing the 20+ tribes that have allready recieved congressional recognition since the establishment of the BIA criteria?

              Maybe its just me, but some things just are'nt adding up here!
              The answer to that is obvious... those other tribes you mention.. are'nt in North Carolina.

              I just think (and this is my opinion only) that if you are representing a people, then you don't make a statement like that, that includes the entire nation unless every single member of that nation says that they agree. That's truly bad representation. That would be like Bush telling Iraq, the whole of America thinks that Iraqians are evil.
              Don't worry that it's not good enough for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song.sigpic

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              • #8
                Why would Eastern Band of Cherokees want to deny the Lumbees federal recognition?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blackbear
                  The answer to that is obvious... those other tribes you mention.. are'nt in North Carolina.

                  I just think (and this is my opinion only) that if you are representing a people, then you don't make a statement like that, that includes the entire nation unless every single member of that nation says that they agree. That's truly bad representation. That would be like Bush telling Iraq, the whole of America thinks that Iraqians are evil.
                  The Guy is arrogant, make no mistake about that! Personally I don’t think he is setting the best example for his people either!

                  As far as him opposing us just because we're in North Carolina; with all due respect Blackbear, there's a lot more to this story than that. I could see this being true for economic and political reasons, but this guy is claiming it is a moral issue, which has nothing to do with the state we’re located in.

                  Besides, it may be true that those VA tribes aren’t in NC but, as far as distance is concerned, they aren’t much further away from the Eastern Band than we are (hell, some might even be a little closer). Not trying to knock those tribes or anything, but don't you think it makes more since to be more concerned with a bill that recognizes six tribes all at once (morally speaking), than it is to be concerned with a bill only concerning one tribe (a tribe which is already partially federally recognized at that)? It just doesn't add up to me!

                  And considering his obvious lack of knowledge about us as well as his lack of interest in acquiring it, I can't help but further question his integrity, his competency, and/or what his true concerns are! You'd think he'd have a solid case before he goes to a Congressional hearing blabbing off at the mouth! But no, he knows all he needs to know! You'd think he'd make some sort of effort to talk to our tribe or perhaps visit our communities once or twice first! But no, he knows it all already! His actions don't speak very well of his character!

                  From where I'm sitting what it seems to boil down to is that this guy doesn't really care about the route to recognition at all. Seems to me like he's really more-so concerned with Lumbees in particular than anything else! Why he is so concerned with us so much I’m still trying to sort out

                  *Either this guy is concerned with gaming competition, less political clout in the state and federal govt's Indian affairs in the region, and/or a smaller allocation of federal resources (and no I don’t believe this is what "most" Cherokees are concerned with);
                  *He doesn't really care about Lumbee recognition either way and is just opposing us so harshly to gain political popularity from his voters (who have been fed a lot of propagandist BS about us, which is why I believe the Cherokee population in general doesn’t care for us very much.); or;
                  *Perhaps he actually has the audacity (which his character suggests) to believe the things he says even though he has not taken a fraction of the time and energy required to even begin developing informed opinions about the subject;

                  Could be a little of each, maybe?
                  But then again who knows, I'm just expressing the way I see it from my little perspective in the world! :dontknow:

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                  • #10
                    A few things

                    "I am pleased that Lumbee recognition did not pass,'' Hicks told the Cherokee One Feather newspaper in a release Tuesday. "The Eastern Band has a long standing position that Congress should not directly federally recognize the Lumbee or any other group as an Indian tribe. There is a process at Interior that weeds out the real from the pretend. We think it should be allowed to work.''


                    I am not sure if this was or wasn't posted in the Cherokee newspaper. I know that very similar articles have appeared throughout newspapers in NC. I'm not going to post my own personal feelings about this issue. However, what do you guys and gals think? You can see from the quote above of what the EBCI Chief thinks about the Lumbee and other tribes going through Congress to be fully federally recognized. Another question for ya'll.....do you think that is a fair statement being that the EBCI were recognized by an act of Congress? I'd like to hear what ya'll have to say.
                    "Love is like the wind, better felt than heard." ~ compliments of the Lumbee Warrior


                    "She walks in beauty in two worlds." ~ Lumbee Proverb

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by lumbee_warrior
                      "I am pleased that Lumbee recognition did not pass,'' Hicks told the Cherokee One Feather newspaper in a release Tuesday. "The Eastern Band has a long standing position that Congress should not directly federally recognize the Lumbee or any other group as an Indian tribe. There is a process at Interior that weeds out the real from the pretend. We think it should be allowed to work.''


                      I am not sure if this was or wasn't posted in the Cherokee newspaper. I know that very similar articles have appeared throughout newspapers in NC. I'm not going to post my own personal feelings about this issue. However, what do you guys and gals think? You can see from the quote above of what the EBCI Chief thinks about the Lumbee and other tribes going through Congress to be fully federally recognized. Another question for ya'll.....do you think that is a fair statement being that the EBCI were recognized by an act of Congress? I'd like to hear what ya'll have to say.
                      It sure would be interesting to see the Eastern band have to go through the BIA process. After all one of the requirements is proving that a tribe has maintained continuous political influence over it's members. I wonder (not saying they can't) if the EBCI could prove that they met this standard during the time right after removal up until the time they recieved their congressional recognition (Excpecially During and right after removal, after all it was pretty chaotic wasn't it)? Some might like to argue they were merely a bunch of scattered refugees rather than an autonomous political entity!

                      By Mr. Hicks logic, his tribe's pretend arses just might have been weeded out from the real if this process would have been allowed to work!
                      Last edited by lumbeedancer; 11-29-2004, 12:03 AM.

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