More New Agers - or are they real Kasamba "experts"???

[Wakalapi]

Check it out and judge for yourself.

http://www.kasamba.com/search/Search...ative+American

[Cherie]

LOL, LOL I loved PsychicReader Susan: Do you need a psychic reading to tell you where things are at?

Maybe my husband should've contacted someone like her when he mis-placed his car keys yesterday.

[Blackbear]

well the legal agreement speaks volumnes Wakalapi...

http://www.kasamba.com/help/legal_agreement_member1.htm

[Wakalapi]

I see their copyright agent has an office on Hahilazon Street. Interesting ...

By mail: Copyright Agent
c/o Kasamba Inc.
4 Hahilazon St.
Ramat Gan, 52522
Israel


Ha hilazon is a mystical Talmudic creature from which the sacred blue dye, Tekhelet is derived. There is some debate over whether the Chilazon is a certain type of squid, or the truncolus murex snail. The Agudat P'Til T'chelet argues for the truncolus murex being the true Chilazon of ancient teachings due to the way its ink, taken from a gland on the snails back just underneath the shell, when exposed to the ultraviolet energy of the sun then turns to a torquise shade with a spectrographic reflection which peaks at 613nm. This is also a mystical number which correlates to the 613 Toraic Laws. OF course the teachings of certain descendants of the House of Levi assert that since the truncolus murex snail is the known source of the sacred color Argomon, it cannot also be the source of the sacred color Tekhelet.

For this reason, since the debate cannot be considered conclusively resolved and the identity of the lost Chilazon settled universally to the satisfaction of all schools of thought and eliminating all doubt, it is the current tradition of Chabad-Lubavitch to use plain, undyed white threads in the tzitziyot attached to the arba konvot, tallit katan or tallit gadol. This is also a symbol of mourning for the loss of the sacred color tekhelet.

[Blackbear]

Hmm... well that's interesting to know.. I would have thought that if they got blue ink from an animal that they were draining horseshoe crabs for their blood which is a bright turquoisy blue that floresses. BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!

[Camp7Kiowa]

WHAT DAH!!!!!!???????!!!!

[bahnisiain]

this is soo weird.

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[sokoki_wolf]

Hmm... well that's interesting to know.. I would have thought that if they got blue ink from an animal that they were draining horseshoe crabs for their blood which is a bright turquoisy blue that floresses. BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!!!

um BB have you talked to any one "professional" about these thoughts? lmao

[musicedu77]

this whole new ager think...i think its just an excust tomake a reglion...it not only makes fun of our culture but wicca as well...its sad to see so many ppl think its a kewl fatih when it aint..i hae a sister who practices wicca herslef and when she found out what new agers were she was pretty angry..

[Blackbear]

um BB have you talked to any one "professional" about these thoughts? lmao

You know.. I've tried and they just get frustrated with me and tell me to go home. ROFLMAO

[sokoki_wolf]

You know.. I've tried and they just get frustrated with me and tell me to go home. ROFLMAO

must be Indian health service shrinks lmao

[crazywolf]

Boozhoo niji,

Hmm new agers make me sick. It seems like they take the best aspects of everything around them, put them in a bowl and stir until nothing is unique anymore.

I was talking to this guy who is a singer at a pow wow a couple days ago, Dave Trezak, some of you might have heard him. He was emcee there, and we were talking, literally behind someones back. There was this woman singing there, and she sang pretty good, but she is new age, she prays to crystals. Now in fact she denies having ever done so and its funny that Dave has a video of her doing that. I asked Dave if praying to crystals makes you a good singer or not. We stood around there and joked about it for 10 minutes or more.

What really hurts is that around a week ago, a mentor and friend of mine, Charlie Bongo passed on, he was Anishinaabe, and a Mide. Over a year ago I gave him tobacco for a name, and a few months later he named me. He taught me many things, and had many more things to teach. These are now things I may never learn. What gets me is this singing woman is the only person I know of that was at his funeral, and how the **** such a person came to know him that personally in the first place.

You know... I used to do a lot of things before I learned a lot of things, and one of the things I have finally learned is.. you dont mix stuff up. Keep the traditions pure and as complete as possible. I dont like seeing things from one tribe being borrowed into another tribe unless there is a pretty darn good reason. One example being the big drum ceremony that the Lakota gave to the Anishinaabe, to keep it alive. That is something that I see as respectful. I have sat in sweats however, where traditions were mixed, and felt uncomfortable. I really feel uncomfortable when Christianity is brought into any part of our traditions.

I sometimes wonder if the government wants stuff like this to happen. I mean, if you take a liquid, and add water, it dilutes it. If you take a tradition, and add stuff from outside the culture, it also dilutes it. Dilution means weaker, so in the people adopting our ways and adding stuff as they see fit, dilutes them and makes us weaker for it. Thus the white man wins again.

We need to keep our traditions strong, and in doing that keeping ourselves strong.

Derek

[musicedu77]

Boozhoo niji,

Hmm new agers make me sick. It seems like they take the best aspects of everything around them, put them in a bowl and stir until nothing is unique anymore.

I was talking to this guy who is a singer at a pow wow a couple days ago, Dave Trezak, some of you might have heard him. He was emcee there, and we were talking, literally behind someones back. There was this woman singing there, and she sang pretty good, but she is new age, she prays to crystals. Now in fact she denies having ever done so and its funny that Dave has a video of her doing that. I asked Dave if praying to crystals makes you a good singer or not. We stood around there and joked about it for 10 minutes or more.

What really hurts is that around a week ago, a mentor and friend of mine, Charlie Bongo passed on, he was Anishinaabe, and a Mide. Over a year ago I gave him tobacco for a name, and a few months later he named me. He taught me many things, and had many more things to teach. These are now things I may never learn. What gets me is this singing woman is the only person I know of that was at his funeral, and how the **** such a person came to know him that personally in the first place.

You know... I used to do a lot of things before I learned a lot of things, and one of the things I have finally learned is.. you dont mix stuff up. Keep the traditions pure and as complete as possible. I dont like seeing things from one tribe being borrowed into another tribe unless there is a pretty darn good reason. One example being the big drum ceremony that the Lakota gave to the Anishinaabe, to keep it alive. That is something that I see as respectful. I have sat in sweats however, where traditions were mixed, and felt uncomfortable. I really feel uncomfortable when Christianity is brought into any part of our traditions.

I sometimes wonder if the government wants stuff like this to happen. I mean, if you take a liquid, and add water, it dilutes it. If you take a tradition, and add stuff from outside the culture, it also dilutes it. Dilution means weaker, so in the people adopting our ways and adding stuff as they see fit, dilutes them and makes us weaker for it. Thus the white man wins again.

We need to keep our traditions strong, and in doing that keeping ourselves strong.

Derek

very well said...but with the crystal stuff are you for positive she isnt practicing wicca instead of new age cr**ola ..i thinik wiccan pray with crystals instead of tobacco but dont count me on that ...thats something i would have to ask my sister...she knows more about wicca than i will ever do..

[they_drag_him]

LOL, LOL I loved PsychicReader Susan: Do you need a psychic reading to tell you where things are at?

Maybe my husband should've contacted someone like her when he mis-placed his car keys yesterday.

I guess your husband didn't heed the psychic's warning about you and Hawk40. Why did you leave your husband Cherie?