Child murdered-- warning advised before reading

[Tinyoak]

Two words for the prison system...General Population. Wierd as it is, even inmates don't tollerate these types. On a serious not I could barely get through this heartbreaking article without glancing at my 4 year old daughter and breaking down even more. I cannot fathom how or why someone could do such a thing. As far as the mother---and keep in mind this is my own opinion--I can't have sympathey for her at all. She says she loved him before he killed her daughter, but my question is...did she love her daughter more than him? Personally, my life would be of little importance when it comes to my children. At the hands of a man like this I may lose, but I would either take him with me or at the very least go down fighting. Sooner or later this man had to have slept and as bad as it may sound, in my eyes, he would have not woken up again.

[jingledancer_1997]

Poor Baby Girl

i read this and i couldn't stop crying i just want to go home and hug my babies baby girl you now have your wings on again so you will never feel pain you are now the most beautiful up there in heaven

[RezBluesGirl]

Child Murdered-- warning advised before reading

I agree with Brown Eyed Gurl. Forget the statistics and cycles and the studies of battered women, unless you have lived it or witnessed it first hand, you don't really know. Every person handles troubled situations differently. We all can stand around and say "Well I would have done this" or "They should have done this" but in reality things don't always go as smooth as we would like to think. Macalia stayed with him not out of love but out of fear of him and his family. Believe it or not, there are some families that like to think that they can intimidate others. Just like in your own reservation communities, we all know who the trouble makers usually are. That is to say if you live on a reservation. On another note, Marcela was Native American, therefore her story did not have national publicity. We like her story to be known through out the land, so that people will think twice before they choose to ignore similar situations. Here on our reservation the only organization (will not mention) that tried to help Macalia's grandmother in getting her away from Andy before something tragic happened, also recieved threats from Andy Yellowbear's family. Even when the family would succeed in getting Macalia out that situation he would track her down and convince her to come back, even as far as threating Macalia's own grandmother with death if she didn't return to him. It was amazing how much priviledges he was given even while he was incarcerated during the trial. He had access to a phone, a fax machine and who knows what else to intimidate certain individuals. This man I feel is Satan himself. He sat in the court room and showed no remorse or any sign of emotion, but no surprise there he was like that at the funeral of Marcela. I pray that you or your loved ones won't ever have to live with or encounter a man like Andy Yellowbear.

[butterflynwind]

I totally agree with you Blackbear.That is one sick animal.

[Blackbear]

I was not talking about this story at first.I was talking in general.This came to mind when I watched on tv about alittle girl Yesterday.She was from OKlahoma.They found her in a neighbors apartment.

I just read about that story last night and that's downright scary as hell! But that's not an abuser, that's a freak on wheels!

[**Brown Eyed Gurl**]

U dont know it til u have lived it...my mom put up with it for 18 yrs before she really left....but she left us behind...and at the age of 9 i took her place so to speak...and it was like that till the day i got kicked out..when i was 16..i know what its like to be there..and what its like to wanna run away..or to even want that one beating to just kill u and get it over with....but at that same time...i used to tell my friends to just leave..or they will end up dead..i had 3 goot friends that left their men..but they werent really men tho were they

[chazziff]

it good to hear that you got out and stayed out for yourself and most importantly your children ...

but it is hard to have that family support stay through the thick and thin - my parents just did that hard love approach to get my sister to see where she would be heading if she choose to stay. it WAS a big bargain on their part (i do see that) - she could have easily stayed there and got beat to death ... for this "great love." i'm sure it broke their hearts to tell her that they werent going to go pick her up anymore ... and she did say "you're abandoning me" one time to them.

but it is a messed up image of love to allow someone to beat your child to death and to "stand by your man" while he does it

[ndldy68]

I can say that I was in a relationship that was physical and emotional. I knew what was going on and how did I stay with him? I thought it was love. For most women, it is hard to get out because you know that person is still out there. And most of the time we/they are threated. I can say that I am now out of that relationship and after 10 years of the abuse. I have a lot to be thankful. I am glad that he never hurt the kids. But if I stayed there any longer, who knows if he would have. I say thank you for my family and the support that they have gave and continue to give me and my three children.
I read this story and I cried. Because the love that I have for my children, I could not see how anyone would let this happen. I went home and looked at my children and I hugged them and said that I would always protect them.
May god bless everyone and your families.

[chazziff]

things like this do make me hug my kids more and harder .. lol .. just squeeze em!!

and remember ... if you know of any person .. child, woman even men who are being abused, call ... you're call may be the call that SAVES their lives.

and i really dont understand why a woman would stay in such an abusive relationship ... a couple of my own sisters were in very very abusive relationships in their younger days -

i remember my parents going to pick them up and them being in our living room with black eyes, broken arms ... and i just thought "why?" (i began not to care when the calls came - "ask dad to come pick me up" - to only know that in a couple of days she'd go back after the bruises faded.) it wasnt until my mom told my one sister that she wasnt going to come pick her up anymore - she was tired of it, that she finally left him. they told her if she wanted to go back she could stay there and the only way they were going back there to pick her up was to pick up her body becuz thats where she was heading if she stayed with him ....

and it wasnt until recently that my niece told me of her beatings from her step-father for not being one of his own children ...

i am sooo scared for my daughters ... of who they could end up with. what kind of men they will fall in love with, i only hope they find someone like i did - their father.

and remember if you really want to help kids in danger - become a foster parent, many agencies are in dire need of foster homes. good foster homes - ones that really want to help the children who need the help not ones that are in it for the $$ (in most areas it isnt very much - but hey it shouldnt be about the money). most often than not - agencies have to return children back to unsafe homes or leave them in unsafe homes becuz their are no safe homes available to take them to ...

[Eagle Plumes]

I do that too...

Any time I hear things like this I about squeeze the stuffin out my kiddos and they look at me and say your doing that mom thing again arent you!!! and i say yes I am and we share mega hugs and kiss's

[kiyaanii mom]

I am going to go hug my children right now. I cant even express how I feel about this.
As much as I want to do unimaginable things to this man the only way to bring justice to this little girl is to love as many lil children as you can.
Soon as my wife finishes nursing school I feel like I should adopt.

Thanks for the proactive suggestion. We all need to reachout to those kids who are suffering. And I like your suggestion.

[butterflynwind]

Kool idea.

[Gache]

I am going to go hug my children right now. I cant even express how I feel about this.
As much as I want to do unimaginable things to this man the only way to bring justice to this little girl is to love as many lil children as you can.
Soon as my wife finishes nursing school I feel like I should adopt.

[butterflynwind]

I was not talking about this story at first.I was talking in general.This came to mind when I watched on tv about alittle girl Yesterday.She was from OKlahoma.They found her in a neighbors apartment.

[butterflynwind]

Think k mom is exactly right.It would break my heart for that to happen.