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An Inside Look at A Wannabe Chief Defending His Flock
Filed under: Uncategorized — threeoaks @ 11:51 pm
As something a little different, readers might be interested in a look at the lack of intelligence, ability, and rational thought of wannabe “tribe” leaders when they attempt to counter any exposure of their so-called “tribe” as being fake. Unable to present a rational counter-argument and with the knowledge that they have been caught playing Indian, the only recourse left to them is to present an argumentum ad hominem.The following excerpts are from a series of three e-mails I received this week from Cyril Scott Mize III, “Chief” of the Redwolf Band of the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America.
Mize calls himself “Chief Kodiak”, and has replaced his middle name with that term. The word “Kodiak” comes from the Alutiq (Aleut) word meaning “island” and has no relationship with the Lumbees. I guess this just sounds like a “cool” Indian name to him.
First, a short background on the Redwolf Band - located at Hot Springs, Arkansas - and the United Lumbee.
Mize’s parent organization, the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America, was first started by the same Malcolm Webber of the recent Kaweah Indian Nation scam. “Chief Silver Star” Eva Reed, her late husband John, and Ruby Boyer, took over the United Lumbee after a disagreement over funds, and begin selling “chiefdoms’, charters, and memberships in at least 17 states. When Reed attempted to gain federal recognition for her United Lumbee in the 1980‘s, the group received the unique distinction of passing only two of the seven requirements. The two that they did pass were the least restrictive: it submitted it’s governing document and membership criteria (38.7.d); and it was not subject of congressional legislation that has expressly terminated or forbidden the federal relationship (83.7.g).
Recently, Reed has been pretending that the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America is really called the United Lumbee of North California. However, B.I.A. and State of California documentation show otherwise. Mize has followed suit, plus claims that the group is a California state recognized tribe. This latter is based on erroneous tribal lists. California Senator Barbara Boxer even has them listed as a federally recognized tribe (she continues to do so despite earlier complaints). According to the California Attorney General’s Office, California has no “state recognized tribes”.
On to the e-mails wherein “Chief Kodiak” defends the honor of his wannabe Indian Band. The first e-mail was copied to one of his followers. I suppose that he then felt bolder since I didn’t bother to respond, and his second e-mail was copied to 16 of his followers. I didn’t respond to that either. I guess he thought he had me on the run and really puffed out his chest by copying his third e-mail to around thirty-three followers. Needless to say, I haven’t responded to that either. I’m waiting to see just how far he will go to demean himself and his group with his tirades.
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail dated 12/06/07 12:06 AM.
“you need to get your head out of your backside so you can breath clean air you live in the past and so far in it you can’t get up to the future go find a list of Calif tribes and read it .and do not put Weber in the mix he’s old news with’ us and is branded a renegade for life from the time we caught him your old news bunk and is as lame as you and your story about Eldorado is so full of holes a nat would look like a b 52 flying through a window without any-view of glass to be seen and the hole was made by a BB you talk like a man with a toilet asshole made with wet toilet paper that is wet can’t hold air much and the s#%t you put out about, us your brain must look like a BB rolling down a 8 lane hwy and the hwy is the cutting edge of a razor blade oh and by the way i will let the others you call fakes have your e-mail add. as i know some of those B.I.A. guys want to see you about your B.S. as they are men i know and do the have their cards people who live in glass house’e should not throw stones.”
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail dated 12/06/07 01:06 PM
“so just where the hell were you when this fake tribe (as you say)was bringing food ,clothes,toys and other needs to cut throat res in the Dakota’s and several others. all i ever see or hear from you is b/s about people you do not know or have ever even met in your life your like a old women crying all the time about things you know nothing about as in ElDorado AR. you were not there but to ask you you know all about it, why did i do the interview well maybe the good woman who was to do it could not get there in time to do it so there smart guy now you know a very small part of the story and i don’t owe you a answer anyway so grow up and learn to keep out of things you know nothing about your as bad as a two year old into everything, but you also are like the snake (split tongue)”
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail 12/07/07 07:59 PM
“you sir are the ms0t arrogant jackass i have had the misfortune in reading about you don’t know the first thing about the people you right about and act as thou you have known them all your miserable life if you don’t have your facts right then keep your trash mouth shut there is a time coming you will wish you had things are going to happen for the Indian that you will wish you had kept you dirty mouth shut as these things come to pass and they will go right past you without once looking back and no one will miss you even children will turn away from you as they will know what a snake tongue you have you are in the same group as the people you put down we who know ourselves don’t have to explain ourselves to a piece of trash like you my god tells me to turn away from the likes of you but he also says to teach you at the same time but i do not think you can be changed as you are to far gone to help so good by … will pray that the great one will show you the true path to walk as you are truly lost and no one else can help you are like standing bear (lee moore) and walker dunn (white eagle) lost in your on pile of dung and pulling everone you can in with you remember one day you will stand before him change your ways before you are lost forever oh also learn to read ….you talk like a man with a paper asshole a wet one at that one of these days you are going to blow yourself apart “
There you have it. A genuine wannabe “chief” defending his wannabe “Redwolf Indian Band”.
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Planning a Pow Wow
This was posted due to the remarks from so called “Chief Kodiak”, Mize's
An Inside Look at A Wannabe Chief Defending His Flock
Filed under: Uncategorized — threeoaks @ 11:51 pm
As something a little different, readers might be interested in a look at the lack of intelligence, ability, and rational thought of wannabe “tribe” leaders when they attempt to counter any exposure of their so-called “tribe” as being fake. Unable to present a rational counter-argument and with the knowledge that they have been caught playing Indian, the only recourse left to them is to present an argumentum ad hominem.The following excerpts are from a series of three e-mails I received this week from Cyril Scott Mize III, “Chief” of the Redwolf Band of the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America.
Mize calls himself “Chief Kodiak”, and has replaced his middle name with that term. The word “Kodiak” comes from the Alutiq (Aleut) word meaning “island” and has no relationship with the Lumbees. I guess this just sounds like a “cool” Indian name to him.
First, a short background on the Redwolf Band - located at Hot Springs, Arkansas - and the United Lumbee.
Mize’s parent organization, the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America, was first started by the same Malcolm Webber of the recent Kaweah Indian Nation scam. “Chief Silver Star” Eva Reed, her late husband John, and Ruby Boyer, took over the United Lumbee after a disagreement over funds, and begin selling “chiefdoms’, charters, and memberships in at least 17 states. When Reed attempted to gain federal recognition for her United Lumbee in the 1980‘s, the group received the unique distinction of passing only two of the seven requirements. The two that they did pass were the least restrictive: it submitted it’s governing document and membership criteria (38.7.d); and it was not subject of congressional legislation that has expressly terminated or forbidden the federal relationship (83.7.g).
Recently, Reed has been pretending that the United Lumbee of North Carolina and America is really called the United Lumbee of North California. However, B.I.A. and State of California documentation show otherwise. Mize has followed suit, plus claims that the group is a California state recognized tribe. This latter is based on erroneous tribal lists. California Senator Barbara Boxer even has them listed as a federally recognized tribe (she continues to do so despite earlier complaints). According to the California Attorney General’s Office, California has no “state recognized tribes”.
On to the e-mails wherein “Chief Kodiak” defends the honor of his wannabe Indian Band. The first e-mail was copied to one of his followers. I suppose that he then felt bolder since I didn’t bother to respond, and his second e-mail was copied to 16 of his followers. I didn’t respond to that either. I guess he thought he had me on the run and really puffed out his chest by copying his third e-mail to around thirty-three followers. Needless to say, I haven’t responded to that either. I’m waiting to see just how far he will go to demean himself and his group with his tirades.
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail dated 12/06/07 12:06 AM.
“you need to get your head out of your backside so you can breath clean air you live in the past and so far in it you can’t get up to the future go find a list of Calif tribes and read it .and do not put Weber in the mix he’s old news with’ us and is branded a renegade for life from the time we caught him your old news bunk and is as lame as you and your story about Eldorado is so full of holes a nat would look like a b 52 flying through a window without any-view of glass to be seen and the hole was made by a BB you talk like a man with a toilet asshole made with wet toilet paper that is wet can’t hold air much and the s#%t you put out about, us your brain must look like a BB rolling down a 8 lane hwy and the hwy is the cutting edge of a razor blade oh and by the way i will let the others you call fakes have your e-mail add. as i know some of those B.I.A. guys want to see you about your B.S. as they are men i know and do the have their cards people who live in glass house’e should not throw stones.”
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail dated 12/06/07 01:06 PM
“so just where the hell were you when this fake tribe (as you say)was bringing food ,clothes,toys and other needs to cut throat res in the Dakota’s and several others. all i ever see or hear from you is b/s about people you do not know or have ever even met in your life your like a old women crying all the time about things you know nothing about as in ElDorado AR. you were not there but to ask you you know all about it, why did i do the interview well maybe the good woman who was to do it could not get there in time to do it so there smart guy now you know a very small part of the story and i don’t owe you a answer anyway so grow up and learn to keep out of things you know nothing about your as bad as a two year old into everything, but you also are like the snake (split tongue)”
Excerpt from Mize’s e-mail 12/07/07 07:59 PM
“you sir are the ms0t arrogant jackass i have had the misfortune in reading about you don’t know the first thing about the people you right about and act as thou you have known them all your miserable life if you don’t have your facts right then keep your trash mouth shut there is a time coming you will wish you had things are going to happen for the Indian that you will wish you had kept you dirty mouth shut as these things come to pass and they will go right past you without once looking back and no one will miss you even children will turn away from you as they will know what a snake tongue you have you are in the same group as the people you put down we who know ourselves don’t have to explain ourselves to a piece of trash like you my god tells me to turn away from the likes of you but he also says to teach you at the same time but i do not think you can be changed as you are to far gone to help so good by … will pray that the great one will show you the true path to walk as you are truly lost and no one else can help you are like standing bear (lee moore) and walker dunn (white eagle) lost in your on pile of dung and pulling everone you can in with you remember one day you will stand before him change your ways before you are lost forever oh also learn to read ….you talk like a man with a paper asshole a wet one at that one of these days you are going to blow yourself apart “
There you have it. A genuine wannabe “chief” defending his wannabe “Redwolf Indian Band”.
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