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  • Are the Barak rumors just vieled racism?

    I find it amazing that the rumors and smears about Obama are believed.

    He's a Muslim.
    He was born in Africa.
    He doesn't salute the flag.

    I'm sure you heard them too!

    I read stories like this:
    Obama rumors fly in Flag City USA - Washington Post - MSNBC.com

    And I wonder if people really believe these rumors or its something else.

    Obama has even setup a website to fight these rumors:
    Fight the Smears | Fight the Smears Home

    But I think he is attacking the wrong thing.

    During the primary I talked to people of my parent's generation that are middle of the road politically. Many seemed to like Obama and hoped he would do well.

    Now I talk to those same people and they tell me that there is "just something about him..." They are now leaning to McCain, but they don't know why.

    So here's my theory.

    Obama is black! And they just won't and can't vote for a black man. When Hillary was winning it was easy to say they like the black man since we probably wouldn't win.

    Now people are looking for reasons not to vote for him. To me they are just grasping at anything to validate why they won't vote for Obama.

    What do you all think?

    Are you seeing the same thing?

    Does Obama have a chance?
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    My wife would get mad when I would say Hillary didn't have a chance, because America isn't ready for a woman president. I would tell her we would probably get a black president first... I don't think America is ready for a black president just yet. We are in need of a change, I just don't see it happening yet.
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    • #3
      Paul, are you serious?
      It is not a rumor that he belonged and participated for 20 years in a hate-based church that was and remains a front for a political hate group. Have you listened to the hate-filled speeches PUBLISHED by his church?

      And when is he going to answer the question of HOW he is going to change things. Anybody can chant that we need change. Does he have any ideas? I keep waiting.

      He says now that his church does not reflect his current views.

      So, He didn't Inhale all that hatred he got out of bed on sunday mornings to hear?

      I think Black Americans deserve a President who is a person of integrity. If Colin Powell were running for president, you wouldn't be hearing rumors.

      jus my 2 cent.
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      • #4
        Here's the deal...I don't care if he was pink (my favorite color) I don't trust him and I don't trust him...not a color issue for me at all!!!!!
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        • #5
          did I mention I don't trust him?
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          Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, laying in hospitals, dying of nothing....

          If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you!

          Four things you can't recover:

          The stone........after the throw. The word........after it's said.

          The occasion...........after it's missed. The time.........after it's gone.

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          • #6
            Like someone mentioned, it's not a color issue for me either. He's just inexperienced, so I don't know if he has to guts to do what he says.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by storyteller View Post
              Paul, are you serious?
              It is not a rumor that he belonged and participated for 20 years in a hate-based church that was and remains a front for a political hate group. Have you listened to the hate-filled speeches PUBLISHED by his church?

              And when is he going to answer the question of HOW he is going to change things. Anybody can chant that we need change. Does he have any ideas? I keep waiting.

              He says now that his church does not reflect his current views.

              So, He didn't Inhale all that hatred he got out of bed on sunday mornings to hear?

              I think Black Americans deserve a President who is a person of integrity. If Colin Powell were running for president, you wouldn't be hearing rumors.

              jus my 2 cent.
              I was raised in a church that taught me Catholics and Mormans were cults and didn't believe in Jesus. But I turned out ok (I know that may be debatable).

              Being a member of that church doesn't bother me so much. I personally wanted him to wait another round before he ran because of his inexperience.

              But as for the other stories that are UNtrue, why are they believed?

              Someone on this site just quoted some of them to me on another thread!
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              • #8
                Just because he's black????.....are you serious Paul???....aren't you playing the race card there???.....the color of his skin has nothing to do with it....if it was Hillary, then someone would have said because she's a woman....then that would be playing the gender card.....I just think they should be evaluated on their experience on not because he's promoting change....like someon mentioned above, what change you talking about and just how are you going to do that????
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 50cal View Post
                  Just because he's black????.....are you serious Paul???....aren't you playing the race card there???.....the color of his skin has nothing to do with it....if it was Hillary, then someone would have said because she's a woman....then that would be playing the gender card.....I just think they should be evaluated on their experience on not because he's promoting change....like someon mentioned above, what change you talking about and just how are you going to do that????
                  Yeah, I'm serious. I really think that people here are believing this stuff because it is a easy way to not vote for the black man. Come down south for a while. People are experts at dressing up racism and making it pretty.

                  But that's what I'm asking, what's going on in the rest of the country.

                  Why is it that according to MSNBC.com 10% of American believes he is a Muslim?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paul G View Post
                    I was raised in a church that taught me Catholics and Mormans were cults and didn't believe in Jesus. But I turned out ok (I know that may be debatable).

                    Being a member of that church doesn't bother me so much. I personally wanted him to wait another round before he ran because of his inexperience.

                    But as for the other stories that are UNtrue, why are they believed?

                    Someone on this site just quoted some of them to me on another thread!
                    Paul, if I could find the news clips of him sitting during the Pedge in a congressional hearing, and looking around like he was bored out of his mind while the national Anthem was being played then I would post them......I'll keep looking for them, but by now I wouldn't be surprised if they were taken off the web.......
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                    • #11
                      my 2 cents canadian...its like young people trying to find a job..they dont have experience they need experience..i guess you can say dont elect him till later like when hes 50ish....mccain is another old white guy...business as usual....status quo...tho he may be slightly senile JK...not being age-ist am i?...i think he has a chance..america's a big country and it not all just southern folk that vote...cuz the further north you go the less racist morons they are...just my theory....or am i being too opinionated? lol...anywayz least you have someone of colour who made it that far in politics...we dont have that up here...so my previous statement is null and void...about racist morons...lol..ok have a nice day

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 50cal View Post
                        Paul, if I could find the news clips of him sitting during the Pedge in a congressional hearing, and looking around like he was bored out of his mind while the national Anthem was being played then I would post them......I'll keep looking for them, but by now I wouldn't be surprised if they were taken off the web.......
                        Read this:
                        snopes.com: Barack Obama and the National Anthem
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                        • #13
                          I stand up for the pledge of allegiance. I do not put my hand over my heart nor do I say the words. (Cuz they aren't true) I do not like the national anthem. I am voting for Ralph Nader. LOL!!! But, Does This make me less "american"? I hope so. Even though I am an Indigenous person of this land.
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                          • #14
                            As a child, Obama crossed a cultural divide in Indonesia - Los Angeles Times or try this Barack Obama's Muslim religion--again by Andy Martin or try this... Is There A Political Patriotism Gap?, CBS News' Kathy Frankovic: Barack Obama May Have A Patriotism Perception Problem - CBS News this one I find disturbing because of the back peddling.....Come on now....even other blacks aren't so convinced about him......that should be the eye opener there.......I'll find more and post them as this goes on......
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 7pointbull View Post
                              I stand up for the pledge of allegiance. I do not put my hand over my heart nor do I say the words. (Cuz they aren't true) I do not like the national anthem. I am voting for Ralph Nader. LOL!!! But, Does This make me less "american"? I hope so. Even though I am an Indigenous person of this land.
                              No it doesn't, but as the Commander-in Chief, you set an example.....and by his actions....it's a very poor one......
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                              ...And shephards we shall be. For thee my lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from thy hand. That our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to thee. And teeming with souls shall it ever be. E Nomini Patri, E Fili, E Spiritu Sancti.

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