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    with todays terrorism over seas are the local population of aboriginal people also considered terrorist on thier own so called government Canada??
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    I donot consider myself a terrorist but I would be happy for fly my CRA flag in my place any time. I respect the canadain goverment for what they are trying to do for the Cree People of Northern Quebec. 109
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    • #3
      I do hope not that we are not terrorists like the people from Iraq or Iran. Yes, sometimes we made some mistakes on our part but we want to be recognized of who we are and wanted to save our land in Canada. Most of the time we tried to protest in front of the Ottawa government in Ontario for many of the native issues. A lot of times the Canadian government just ignored us and that is very sad. So when we want to protest something that is very important to us, we tried to have peaceful demonstration and using the drums and sing. We tried not to use violence but we ended up having one either from the Mounted Police or military police. It is never safe when you protest and people can get hurt or a person or more can get killed either by accidents or on purpose (?). There has been hearings or court hearings about discussions on who and why it happens to people who were hurt or killed. It is mostly tragedy among our people. No, we would never hurt people like overseas, except in self-defense. The only problem is the Media news that might give us a bad name and make it look like we were responsible for starting the violence. The reporters are always looking for stories that would paint us if we are bad or good. That is my opinion.

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      • #4
        nope. But I think sometimes the media and government likes to spin it that way so that it takes the attention off of what they have done. I think it is the government and police that are the terrorists. They are the ones comming in and shotting and hurting people when our people are just trying to protect our land.

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        • #5
          Also about what DeaftoniB said about the protests on capitol hill...capitol hill is unceaded Algonquin land...just to put it all in perspective.

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          • #6
            Who Holds The Deck?

            Originally posted by 109 View Post
            with todays terrorism over seas are the local population of aboriginal people also considered terrorist on thier own so called government Canada??
            I would suggest studying Yellow Journalism (well at least examples of it......) Cause theres a whole lot of things going on.....Nothing new though....Media, the press, and so on....Have an eloquent way of painting a particular picture. This "spoonfeeding" of information is effective and important in the programming of the general public a.k.a. The Mindless Masses.....This is the proverbial tip of the iceberg......So before you ponder your question think about one key thing....Who's actually dealing the deck your playing......When or if you determine that, well the answer will be simple.....
            "She also has a very soft skin. The only trouble with snake women is they copulate with horses, which makes them strange to me. She say's she doesn't. That's why I call her "Doesn't Like Horses". But, of course, she's lying."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Coyot_In_The_House View Post
              I would suggest studying Yellow Journalism (well at least examples of it......) Cause theres a whole lot of things going on.....Nothing new though....Media, the press, and so on....Have an eloquent way of painting a particular picture. This "spoonfeeding" of information is effective and important in the programming of the general public a.k.a. The Mindless Masses.....This is the proverbial tip of the iceberg......So before you ponder your question think about one key thing....Who's actually dealing the deck your playing......When or if you determine that, well the answer will be simple.....
              Is this the way History books are written?


              Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?


              "When I was young man I did some dumb things and the elders would talk to me. Sometimes I listened. Time went by and as I looked around...I was the elder".

              Mr. Rossie Freeman

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              • #8
                Have a few questions to ask?

                I am not familiar how the Canadian Government has treated Indigenous aboriginal peoples<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
                Occupying Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia.. In each of these territories is it the same? So how could you be treated or be considered terrorists? I guess I don’t understand. Is it not ok to peacefully assemble and protest in these areas of Canada? I have to agree with SusieQ4.<o:p></o:p>
                All I know is that our land was taken we did not have guns, cannons, and the artillery that was needed to successfully defend ourselves. So who were the ones that kidnapped, bombed us with bullets, assassinated, and intimidated our people through High Wine, all for political purposes. Our tribal Head Men, warriors, women, children, and elders were the victims on their own land.<o:p></o:p>
                What has changed from then to now? They gave us false promises, rotten food, smallpox, syphilis, separated us from our families. <o:p></o:p>
                They gave us Indian agents who were in favor of the white immigrants pouring into the country. The Government Finely created the Bureau of Indian Affairs now see that is what the US has. Do your people from Canada have in place a Bureau or some type of government that over sees aboriginal people?<o:p></o:p>

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SuzzeQ4 View Post
                  Also about what DeaftoniB said about the protests on capitol hill...capitol hill is unceaded Algonquin land...just to put it all in perspective.
                  SuzzeQ4, are you referring to Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. which mean in the United States. Q In Ottawa, it is called the Parliament in the Canadian government.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LaughingWaterWI View Post
                    I am not familiar how the Canadian Government has treated Indigenous aboriginal peoples<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
                    Occupying Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia.. In each of these territories is it the same? So how could you be treated or be considered terrorists? I guess I don’t understand. Is it not ok to peacefully assemble and protest in these areas of Canada? I have to agree with SusieQ4.<o:p></o:p>
                    All I know is that our land was taken we did not have guns, cannons, and the artillery that was needed to successfully defend ourselves. So who were the ones that kidnapped, bombed us with bullets, assassinated, and intimidated our people through High Wine, all for political purposes. Our tribal Head Men, warriors, women, children, and elders were the victims on their own land.<o:p></o:p>What has changed from then to now? They gave us false promises, rotten food, smallpox, syphilis, separated us from our families. <o:p></o:p>
                    They gave us Indian agents who were in favor of the white immigrants pouring into the country. The Government Finely created the Bureau of Indian Affairs now see that is what the US has. Do your people from Canada have in place a Bureau or some type of government that over sees aboriginal people?<o:p></o:p>

                    Good posting (Bold), LaughingWaterWI. Yes, we do and it is called the Ministry of Indian Affairs and it was not always often connected with the Prime Minister very much back then. The Prime Minister made the decisions himself and if he had to discuss with the Minister of Indian Affairs about what to do with different tribes that have occurred in Canada especially here in Ontario. I think the Prime Minister and the Minister of Indian Affairs meaning today might have listen and will do better as they go along trying to understand us. I do not know as every Prime Minister are different in their background.

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                    • #11
                      Geesh I read a lot of news but....

                      Originally posted by DeafToniB View Post
                      Good posting (Bold), LaughingWaterWI. Yes, we do and it is called the Ministry of Indian Affairs and it was not always often connected with the Prime Minister very much back then. The Prime Minister made the decisions himself and if he had to discuss with the Minister of Indian Affairs about what to do with different tribes that have occurred in Canada especially here in Ontario. I think the Prime Minister and the Minister of Indian Affairs meaning today might have listen and will do better as they go along trying to understand us. I do not know as every Prime Minister are different in their background.
                      I read a lot of news regarding Indigenous aboriginal people. The one thing I haven’t I must admit is kept up on our native relatives up in Canada. I have a lot on my plate right now dealing with White Earth. We finialy made some headway. Ok so are these people who sit in this Ministry are they native and voted in by the native people? So these higher ups are in control of all native people up there. I guess what I am trying to ask is that I know you have reserves up there, these reserves have treaties but do not have tribal leaders it is run by this Minister or are there councils on each reserve who are native that fall under this minister. I hope I am not confusing you because I don't know how this works. I apologize I should really know this stuff but at least I admit it lol. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

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                      • #12
                        I wil try to tone it down...

                        I apologize if I sound like I’m on the defensive, I have reasons those reason are personal. I don't mean to come off that way or I try not to. I am a activist who is concerned with a lot of Issues all over the place keeping an eye on court cases and that may affect our future. So it's just me I am not a harsh person. I am sorry that my views are different I respect those who are different. I cannot change anyone and don't want to but will speak up about things that are big concerns. I don't trust the Government yet I respect their law. I respect our native men who put their lives on the line for us. But at the same time we are getting nowhere with things. When will we ever see any of what they owe us. Not in my life time. My children know how I feel just as I know how my mother told me and how she was told by her mother and her mother told her. I can’t not say "ok look I know it all happened it was all a part of history and oh that’s fine I will forgive and forget it was all one big mistake" NO you don’t forget who murdered your loved ones, simple as that. So I just want to deal with the things I can handle in a constructive way. It's not easy battling for your rights. That is why I asked you because I don’t understand why you would be considered terrorists????<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LaughingWaterWI View Post
                          I read a lot of news regarding Indigenous aboriginal people. The one thing I haven’t I must admit is kept up on our native relatives up in Canada. I have a lot on my plate right now dealing with White Earth. We finialy made some headway. Ok so are these people who sit in this Ministry are they native and voted in by the native people? So these higher ups are in control of all native people up there. I guess what I am trying to ask is that I know you have reserves up there, these reserves have treaties but do not have tribal leaders it is run by this Minister or are there councils on each reserve who are native that fall under this minister. I hope I am not confusing you because I don't know how this works. I apologize I should really know this stuff but at least I admit it lol. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
                          I think the white Parliament of the Ottawa Government must have voted the white Ministers of Indian Affairs as we don't have native Ministers.

                          Yes, we do have some treaties that hold true but other treaties were broken just like in the United States too.

                          Yes, we have Councils which are all natives and we have Chiefs, through the years, who are all natives. We have to vote for our native candidates for becoming our Chief in our own reserve. Very few reserves in other provinces, they might have a white Chief or Governor because if the natives or other white communities wanted to vote for a white person to become a Chief or Governor, that is their business.

                          Thank you for your concern. I hope I don't get confuse, either.

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                          • #14
                            Are you familiar with Manitoba at all

                            Originally posted by DeafToniB View Post
                            I think the white Parliament of the Ottawa Government must have voted the white Ministers of Indian Affairs as we don't have native Ministers.

                            Yes, we do have some treaties that hold true but other treaties were broken just like in the United States too.

                            Yes, we have Councils which are all natives and we have Chiefs, through the years, who are all natives. We have to vote for our native candidates for becoming our Chief in our own reserve. Very few reserves in other provinces, they might have a white Chief or Governor because if the natives or other white communities wanted to vote for a white person to become a Chief or Governor, that is their business.

                            Thank you for your concern. I hope I don't get confuse, either.
                            back in the 1800's there were a lot of full bloods stuck up in the selkirk area my great great Grand mother was from there she, along with her husband moved from that area, Back then you had better be living in the right area instead of roamig the country the government wanted to round up every one and put them in certain places so they could have a better control on the native people. I am trying to figure out why she would have wanted to leave her the place where she was born and move from selkirk to MN. I know it had something to do with his treaty not hers, I think but not sure

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LaughingWaterWI View Post
                              back in the 1800's there were a lot of full bloods stuck up in the selkirk area my great great Grand mother was from there she, along with her husband moved from that area, Back then you had better be living in the right area instead of roamig the country the government wanted to round up every one and put them in certain places so they could have a better control on the native people. I am trying to figure out why she would have wanted to leave her the place where she was born and move from selkirk to MN. I know it had something to do with his treaty not hers, I think but not sure
                              Well, a lot of Chiefs both in USA and Canada wanted peace because there were too many whites to stop them from coming over so that we can have peace too. The white governments in both countries threatened us if we don't live on the reservations or reserves, we will all be killed. I guess that is terrorism on our part. That is why we had to moved to different reservations or reserves like the Cherokees which is the worst "Trail of Tears" from the Tennessee or Kentucky of lower USA walking to Oklahoma to put them in the reservations. My great grandmother (Cherokee) on my father's side had to run away from the "Trail of Tears", because she does not want to go to Oklahoma and hide her identity which she does not have it on the rolls. She was not happy with the White President and the white government to put her through. She was lucky that she was alive and settled down making new family of her own. We are suppose to be humans, not terrorists. It had nothing to do with treaty because they don't keep their words or just break the treaty so that the white people can have the lands all they want from them. They don't care about them as human beings but being savages and heathen. Ugh!

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