Russel Means

[Atehequa]

I do find your lack of depth, analysis, thought, social observation and self-awareness mundane but -- perhaps -- there's just nothing worthwhile there to speak of.



Oh, I'm sure your pillow contains whatever grease and oil needed to keep a fryer shift going at McDonald's. I do enjoy the Sampson-esque metaphor though. It shows how you define Nativeness and why thought scares you.



As visual evidence supports the existence of neither, what is bespoken of is your ignorance and lack of observational skills. That and/or education failed you?



Ah, but you do know the buzzwords and racist slurs. As it turns out, you may have an education: it's just the sort which maintains you as an ongoing ward of the state.

Let me guess? Anything that has ever gone wrong in your life is the fault of the White Man and generational trauma is honored in your home like a cloak of righteousness.

Yes, that's the problem, both yours and Russell's.

Greetings Zeke.

Perhaps you shouldn't assume so much.

Yes I do have a problem with some of the white people, Zeke, but it's my problem. If you're troubled my problem, then that's you're problem. Frankly speaking, Zeke I think all of this hostility towards me, a Shawnee man bespeaks of something else. Now I came here to interact with others, but also to speak freely in a civil manner about issues which interest me and perhaps others here as well. I also came to share my art and crafts along with poetry. Oddly enough I've not seen you all that active on the sub-forums here regarding people's art, crafts and poetry. Do you read poetry, or admire artwork Zeke? In my life I've known men who deem such endeavors as not being manly compared to sports or attempting to prove just how rough and tough they are, or are not. Internet forums are the perfect place for some to be rude without fear of having one's skull split.

Alright, you don't like Russell Means, I get it, but that does not mean everyone has the same opinion.

What happened if you called and came prepared to debate or compete and no one else showed up? You may have something to prove to some, Zeke, but it doesn't mean all that much to me.

[Zeke]

What happened if you called and came prepared to debate or compete and no one else showed up?

It would mean Indian people have ceased thinking and accepted the yoke of the Great White Father.

But hey, that doesn't "mean all that much to you."

Hostility?

Please. You're not worth it.

Call it embarrassment...

[Atehequa]

It would mean Indian people have ceased thinking and accepted the yoke of the Great White Father.

But hey, that doesn't "mean all that much to you."

Hostility?

Please. You're not worth it.

Call it embarrassment...

Then Zeke, if I'm not worth it then why bother with me?

[Zeke]

Then Zeke, if I'm not worth it then why bother with me?

For the benefit of others who may -- through no fault of their own -- accept your failed dogma as factual.

That would be bad for all Natives.

[Atehequa]

Ahhh, the ignore feature. Out of sight out of mind like a good flush.

[Zeke]

Ahhh, the ignore feature. Out of sight out of mind like a good flush.

In sum, you've got nothing.

[Atehequa]

I do not romantasize anyone

Ever figure there's a reason that some white people as well as Indians hate Russell Means and have nothing good to say about him?

Ever wonder what the mindset was of the Lakota who killed
Sitting Bull?

[Spiritflight]

Ever figure there's a reason that some white people as well as Indians hate Russell Means and have nothing good to say about him?

Ever wonder what the mindset was of the Lakota who killed
Sitting Bull?

I don't go around wondering - please do so explain your statements.

[milehighsalute]

i have very mixed feeling about russel means....i like his message....BUT he left himself open to many ad hominem attacks....and that is his own fault

i actually agree with both zeke and atehequa

my mother and grandfather knew all of AIM leaddership quite well due to who they were......as my mom says..."well, he had his issues but he was always nice to me."

as was said earlier on this thread....one thing you cant take away from the man was that he sure knew how to shake things up

[milehighsalute]

I do not romantasize anyone

i could be wrong......but you strike me as the type who romantisizes every indian they meet.....just wondering.....do you have a buckskin dress?

[Spiritflight]

i could be wrong......but you strike me as the type who romantisizes every indian they meet.....just wondering.....do you have a buckskin dress?

No - I don't Need that I was married to an NDN.

[Atehequa]

....just wondering.....do you have a buckskin dress?

If so that would be a wonderful wonderment.

[Atehequa]

No - I don't Need that I was married to an NDN.

Was?

[Spiritflight]

Was?

I don't need a Buckskin Dress - I am not NDN - but I could wear one or may even get into making regalia - if it would make anyone NDN happy. And why did you write in german? I mean - it's interesting that you do so if you are not german.

[Atehequa]

I don't need a Buckskin Dress - I am not NDN - but I could wear one or may even get into making regalia - if it would make anyone NDN happy. And why did you write in german? I mean - it's interesting that you do so if you are not german.

I wasn't writing in German. I don't know how to write in German.