Russel Means

[Atehequa]

Unless someone here has did a bit of translating that I'm not aware of, or else some game is being played.

[Spiritflight]

I wasn't writing in German. I don't know how to write in German.

Oh, sorry, that was a misunderstanding. You wrote 'was' and that is the german word for 'what' - but you meant was like in not anymore. Right, I am divorced, unfortunately. I am german, that's why I got that in my mind.

[Atehequa]

Oh, sorry, that was a misunderstanding. You wrote 'was' and that is the german word for 'what' - but you meant was like in not anymore. Right, I am divorced, unfortunately. I am german, that's why I got that in my mind.

I think you like to play games.

[Zeke]

Ever figure there's a reason that some white people as well as Indians hate Russell Means and have nothing good to say about him?

It's called being universally disliked from both mediums. Typically, that implies that neither side respects you.

Ever wonder what the mindset was of the Lakota who killed Sitting Bull?

Sure: that a militant Messiah Craze attached to one man who had already proven to possess no issue with race exploitation (Wild West shows) would eventually prove harmful to Native people.

Sitting Bull, outside his own house, incited his followers to attack the police and their constituted authority in order to prevent his arrest. It got him killed.

As a guess, Lt. Henry Bullhead's mindset was that he was given no choice.

[Spiritflight]

I think you like to play games.

Games? What kind of games?

[Zeke]

I think you like to play games.

[xTekno]

What do you call Last of the Mohicans, after spending his adult life claiming ours is an oral tradition?

The Michael Douglas throat cancer story sheds a new light on "oral" tradition, eh?

[Zeke]

The Michael Douglas throat cancer story sheds a new light on "oral" tradition, eh?

I should get checked...

[xTekno]

I should get checked...

you should put out that cigar!

[Zeke]

you should put out that cigar!

It's what makes me adorable.

[xTekno]

It's what makes me adorable.

as in just totally cute in a way that makes one sigh?

[Stands Alone]

It was so nice to be reading everyone's thoughts on Russell Means and to get to the end and find the humor....priceless!! Thanks guys!

[Spiritflight]

It was so nice to be reading everyone's thoughts on Russell Means and to get to the end and find the humor....priceless!! Thanks guys!

[WhoMe]

I have a unique perspective of Russ.

Before Russ got involved in activism, he and his family lived in Albuquerque. He and his family would come to our house and vise versa to eat and visit. His children from his first wife Betty, Michelle and Scott were the same age as my brother and sister so they played while our mothers visited. My dad and Russ hung around together.

Russ's dad and my grandpa would visit for days on end drinking wakalapi (coffee) because they could understand each other's language (Lakota and Dakota). Sometimes they would pull out their pipes and smoke kinikinik together. This was comforting being so far from home in an urban setting. Since my grandpa and I were best friends, I would sit and listen to their conversations and learn a lot in the process.

Russ was a part of powwow when it first began in the Southwest portion of the United States. I even have a photograph of Russ fancy dancing back then!

Then he moved away and became involved with the American Indian Movement. When he came to town he would stay with my parents and was very respectful to them. He even asked them permission to give me AIM bumper stickers and t-shirts.

As time passed, he became a different person. I heard stories of a Russ I didn't know, but when I seen him, he would still put his arm around me and call me by my first name.

I may not of agreed with some things he said and did, but I did look up to him at one time.


RIP Russ.

[Spiritflight]

I have a unique perspective of Russ.

Before Russ got involved in activism, he and his family lived in Albuquerque. He and his family would come to our house and vise versa to eat and visit. His children from his first wife Betty, Michelle and Scott were the same age as my brother and sister so they played while our mothers visited. My dad and Russ hung around together.

Russ's dad and my grandpa would visit for days on end drinking wakalapi (coffee) because they could understand each other's language (Lakota and Dakota). Sometimes they would pull out their pipes and smoke kinikinik together. This was comforting being so far from home in an urban setting. Since my grandpa and I were best friends, I would sit and listen to their conversations and learn a lot in the process.

Russ was a part of powwow when it first began in the Southwest portion of the United States. I even have a photograph of Russ fancy dancing back then!

Then he moved away and became involved with the American Indian Movement. When he came to town he would stay with my parents and was very respectful to them. He even asked them permission to give me AIM bumper stickers and t-shirts.

As time passed, he became a different person. I heard stories of a Russ I didn't know, but when I seen him, he would still put his arm around me and call me by my first name.

I may not of agreed with some things he said and did, but I did look up to him at one time.


RIP Russ.

Back in the 70's I think it was him Russel Means who was the first NDN I came in contact with. He was in Hamburg Germany talking to the people. I went to that event. After he finished I went on stage and may talked with him only one or two sentences. I do not remember - I did not speak english by then. But from his photos I recall it must have been him. At least he brought NDNness to the mind of germans and others who may attended that event. I appreciate greatly that he came and I am glad, that he's one who went out to the people talking. I am glad he's one who made sure to peoples awareness how poorly NDN's got treated. I had another NDN person talk with someone from the bird family at the german Karl May Festspiele - (don't know the english word for Festspiele) and he said to me that I smoke too much. Yes. Okay. I met Saginaw Grant, no he walked passed me at a concert from this well known NDN blues singer. And Saginaw gave me way I felt embarrassed, bad german manners, I should have given him way as he's older than me. On day at a Powwow I talked to a woman at a booth stand and she told me she's Saginaw's daughter. For some reason Saginaw and I telephoned while I was living with my best friend this Tohono O'Odham man. Saginaw and me wanted to meet up as he wanted to give me some of recordings. It did not happen, I had to tell him that I will have to move back to Germany. Later, when I was married to this Dakota Sioux man who got adopted out into a white family, we went to a Powwow in CA and there was Saginaw sitting infront of the Arena and I walked up to him to say hello. He was kind and friendly to me. I introduced my exHubby to him and he did not like him. Yea, why? He's too much influenced by a white mother who did not have a clue about what she was doing to him. So I tried to find the birth parents in ND for my ExHubby and I succeeded. I found them online. Everyone was happy. Please excuse me that I flew off to other things rather then about Russel Means. I don't even know why I am saying all this or perhaps I do. I am sorry if it's not welcome to brag on like this. I guess that's just my nature. But nevertheless Russel Means is and was an important person.