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  • #16
    Originally posted by Grits & Beans
    yep, white privilege, must be nice.

    gotta keep the outspoken natives in check....


    exclusive question- how harmful is this fb page to us as native people?

    Oh boyee, white privilege, thats a red flag if ever! Some NDN people have been complaining about that since before Columbus!
    You know what I'm saying rightttt?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Plinney View Post
      Oh white privilege, thats a red flag if ever! Some NDN people have been complaining about that since before Columbus!
      You know what I'm saying rightttt?
      new guy, did you even look at the fb page in question?

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      • #18
        Reported to FB

        Originally posted by solitare View Post
        CHECK THIS OUT:

        Reported this page as hate speech: Apparently face book sees no problem with such a page.

        https://www.facebook.com/completeamerican?ref=nf
        I Reported the Page:
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        • #19
          From the "About" section of that FaceBook Community Page:


          About
          the more we mix our blood the more beautiful we will be as jesus christ's white children
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          • #20
            Originally posted by AmigoKumeyaay View Post
            From the "About" section of that FaceBook Community Page:


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            the more we mix our blood the more beautiful we will be as jesus christ's white children
            That is exactly what bother me the most. This got to be about genocide to make white blood for white children, no mix. Geeze.
            Gegiibishedjig (Deaf Person)

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            • #21
              FaceBook Official Reponse

              Facebook's lame response:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Toolbox View Post
                Either that page is satire or the person running it is sincere in that they believe what they are doing. Either way, and as much as we may disagree with the page, it isn't hate speech.

                I scrolled through the page and the more I read into it and looked at the pics it seems to be more satire than anything.
                You are right, but then the page should not be on "Public" setting, it should be viewable by only those who wish to be in on the satire, their own Community Page.

                The average white person looking at the page would just be worse off in their ignorance of Natives, Native issues. Their own misconceptions are re-enforced by the images and statements on that page.
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                • #23
                  Please don't take my statement as defending them or their ignorant lame content. I was merely stating that going to Facebook and charging them with "Hate Speech" is incorrect. Unfortunately people wearing headdresses when they have no right and dressing up as natives when they shouldn't be isn't hate speech and because its somehow still "OK" in the mainstream culture then Facebook's team is left with no choice but to deny the claim as they could potentially get in trouble for denying of free speech by the page's owner, amongst other potential legal crap.

                  I will state that I am not at all OK with people misappropriating a culture that they are not part of.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DeafElderWoman View Post
                    That is exactly what bother me the most. This got to be about genocide to make white blood for white children, no mix. Geeze.
                    my friend, dont let this nonsense worry you. it really is just a sick joke. this person(s) posts that garbage to provoke a response, like i mentioned earlier. they seem to know to phrase their posts in a way that doesn't get them shut down. they can't say "white power" outright, so they design their statuses to resemble that statement, and within fb guidelines.

                    they can get away with that in an online community. now to address what you quoted. i can only speculate that amigok has the good sense to know that if he went to a gathering of an indigenous community, being white, he wouldn't even think of uttering those words publicly in that respective community.

                    it really is an uphill battle drawing attention to racism against indigenous people. but regardless of propaganda and twisted satire, our indigenous communities are still indigenous communities. a silly fb page isn't going to change that.

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                    • #25
                      Ok, so ya made me look. That page hasn't posted on their own page since July of last year. I don't know how it even got found, except for the posts on the side. Toolbox is right-it isn't hate speech-and it chokes me to say that (not about the TB being right part). I am not even going to bother to report it. I reported a page last week about Killing All the Wolves. This page advocated it, and had hideous photos of murdered and butchered wolves. I reported it for graphic violence-and got the same canned response from FB about it not violating their terms. (:
                      Take nothing for granted. Life can change irrevocably in a heartbeat.

                      I will not feed the troll-well, I will try.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DeafElderWoman View Post
                        That is exactly what bother me the most. This got to be about genocide to make white blood for white children, no mix. Geeze.
                        Not much we can do, Facebook Security is letting the Native American PRIDE page remain.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Toolbox View Post
                          Please don't take my statement as defending them or their ignorant lame content. I was merely stating that going to Facebook and charging them with "Hate Speech" is incorrect. Unfortunately people wearing headdresses when they have no right and dressing up as natives when they shouldn't be isn't hate speech and because its somehow still "OK" in the mainstream culture then Facebook's team is left with no choice but to deny the claim as they could potentially get in trouble for denying of free speech by the page's owner, amongst other potential legal crap.

                          I will state that I am not at all OK with people misappropriating a culture that they are not part of.
                          that is unfortunately true for sporting events as well as social sites. natives protesting the wearing of headdresses at a giants game were detained june 27th

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                          • #28
                            I didnt read anything.


                            Why must I feel like that..why must I chase the cat?


                            "When I was young man I did some dumb things and the elders would talk to me. Sometimes I listened. Time went by and as I looked around...I was the elder".

                            Mr. Rossie Freeman

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                            • #29
                              ummmmm......im on that page.....if you notice it is a joke page started by an INDIAN......read it real carefuly, and i dont think the person who owns the page even checked it for over a year......look at the dates, and look at all the real injuns laughing about the ridiculousness of it.....read it close how can you not ick up its an injun with a twisted sense of humor?
                              "I on the trail of a possible good Indian lady and she is reported to like the old way's and she to believes in big family and being at home with kids all the time"... - MOTOOPI aka WOUNDED BEAR

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by milehighsalute View Post
                                ummmmm......im on that page.....if you notice it is a joke page started by an INDIAN......read it real carefuly, and i dont think the person who owns the page even checked it for over a year......look at the dates, and look at all the real injuns laughing about the ridiculousness of it.....read it close how can you not ick up its an injun with a twisted sense of humor?
                                That's an interesting take [MENTION=171008]milehighsalute[/MENTION]. I'm going to go re read the page with this idea in mind. Curious though, what exactly brought the idea to you that the person is native with a twisted sense of humor?

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