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  • #16
    After reading all this I did a little research, found some interesting sites:





    familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white_papers-articles/children_chattel/#Thirteenth Amendment Applied To Child Welfare



    I was a parent of a "special needs" child who passed away in 1999. The site for family rights is informative and the Thirteenth Amendment is very interesting.
    Last edited by Stands Alone; 11-01-2011, 10:00 AM.

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    • #17


      Should be able to get to this site, the one listed above does not work.
      Last edited by Stands Alone; 11-01-2011, 10:31 AM.

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      • #18
        The social services here on the rez here is always advertising for native foster families. There's just not enough of them. I know a lot of people that are taking care of other kids informally.

        It's an ugly situation all around. There are some kids that should be taken out of their homes, that aren't.
        ...it is what it is...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by wyo_rose View Post
          The social services here on the rez here is always advertising for native foster families. There's just not enough of them. I know a lot of people that are taking care of other kids informally.

          It's an ugly situation all around. There are some kids that should be taken out of their homes, that aren't.
          The ugliness is everywhere. Courts and welfare agencies don't guarantee improvements in the life of these children.

          The informal care sounds better!

          Help is also needed for the dysfunctional parents, but their condition may take years to reverse, if at all.

          Once the child turns 18, the legal issue stops, but the memories are for life.
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          • #20
            Yep, I've known several people that have been raised in white homes thru the foster care program, some good, some bad...but most of them led dysfunctional lives after that.
            ...it is what it is...

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            • #21
              On FB, I have liked Ann Rice's page. In the few weeks since I have been following her, she posts to news links readers send her, so I posted the link to this story. According to FB, 543,758 people like that page, so I"m hoping at least 1/10th of them will see it. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but..........
              Take nothing for granted. Life can change irrevocably in a heartbeat.

              I will not feed the troll-well, I will try.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by subeeds View Post
                This just has to stop, but I have no idea of how to stop it.
                Try having responsible Native parents that don't deserve to have their kids removed?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Zeke View Post
                  Try having responsible Native parents that don't deserve to have their kids removed?
                  That sounds good. You invent the time machine that will go back a couple of generations so there is a place to start to maybe save this generation or the next one. I will volunteer to be the first one to try it out.
                  Take nothing for granted. Life can change irrevocably in a heartbeat.

                  I will not feed the troll-well, I will try.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by subeeds View Post
                    That sounds good. You invent the time machine that will go back a couple of generations so there is a place to start to maybe save this generation or the next one. I will volunteer to be the first one to try it out.
                    See?

                    That's the problem when you've been brainwashed into entitlement crafted by generational trauma.

                    Place to start?

                    TRY NOW.

                    It is the responsibility of this generation to "save" this generation, ongoing and recurring.

                    We do not carry the sins or stigma of our forefathers unless we accept it.

                    I don't, why should anyone?

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                    • #25
                      If it could be gotten into the school curriculum in grades K-12, it could help. There needs to be more than that though and where does that come from? Kids need to see people being responsible and examples of responsibility. If it doesn't come from home, then where?
                      Take nothing for granted. Life can change irrevocably in a heartbeat.

                      I will not feed the troll-well, I will try.

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                        • #27
                          Something fishy is definitely going on with this.
                          Cariblanguage.org

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by wyo_rose View Post
                            The social services here on the rez here is always advertising for native foster families. There's just not enough of them. I know a lot of people that are taking care of other kids informally.

                            It's an ugly situation all around. There are some kids that should be taken out of their homes, that aren't.
                            So why are there not enough native foster care homes? Do you think it might be because native communities are smaller and the dynamics are such that it would be hard to take in a foster child without some anonymity? Or are there other issues?

                            I think we need to figure that out and start there right? Here's my first good guess.Increase the current numbers of native foster care,become more assertive in dealing with the social service system and then at the same time we need to tackle the issue of abuse and neglect within the native communities?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zeke View Post
                              Try having responsible Native parents that don't deserve to have their kids removed?
                              WOW, that was pretty white of ya.
                              As opposed to white, black, brown, red folks, who don't deserve to have there kids? See that crap on the news all the time. Yet Child Protective services never remove or at least give back, one way or another the kid dies.

                              And either you didn't read the info or have never known or seen a kid removed from a home because they were poor. Native kids are not always removed because of addiction, if that were the case, then the numbers would stagger as to the amount of white kids in the system, nor because of abuse or neglect. But because we're poor Indians, who "Choose to live in our "lifestyle.

                              Very touchy subject because I have friends and cousins who have been removed. Not saying that my family doesn't have there problems, but definitely not enough to remove children.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pigheaded View Post
                                WOW, that was pretty white of ya.
                                Don't you mean real, accountable, adult, honest, etc?

                                The question was asked "how to stop the problem."

                                Step One, is to realize who is at fault.

                                If you have accountable parents, none of this happens.

                                Don't try to excuse "poor" as a "lifestyle," unless you're willing to go over in the college thread and say "our kids don't need no stinking college."

                                You can't have it both ways.

                                Grow up or give up.

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