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  • subeeds
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    Originally posted by Zeke View Post
    Try having responsible Native parents that don't deserve to have their kids removed?
    That sounds good. You invent the time machine that will go back a couple of generations so there is a place to start to maybe save this generation or the next one. I will volunteer to be the first one to try it out.

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  • Zeke
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    Originally posted by subeeds View Post
    This just has to stop, but I have no idea of how to stop it.
    Try having responsible Native parents that don't deserve to have their kids removed?

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  • subeeds
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    On FB, I have liked Ann Rice's page. In the few weeks since I have been following her, she posts to news links readers send her, so I posted the link to this story. According to FB, 543,758 people like that page, so I"m hoping at least 1/10th of them will see it. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but..........

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  • wyo_rose
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    Yep, I've known several people that have been raised in white homes thru the foster care program, some good, some bad...but most of them led dysfunctional lives after that.

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  • AmigoKumeyaay
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    Originally posted by wyo_rose View Post
    The social services here on the rez here is always advertising for native foster families. There's just not enough of them. I know a lot of people that are taking care of other kids informally.

    It's an ugly situation all around. There are some kids that should be taken out of their homes, that aren't.
    The ugliness is everywhere. Courts and welfare agencies don't guarantee improvements in the life of these children.

    The informal care sounds better!

    Help is also needed for the dysfunctional parents, but their condition may take years to reverse, if at all.

    Once the child turns 18, the legal issue stops, but the memories are for life.

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  • wyo_rose
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    The social services here on the rez here is always advertising for native foster families. There's just not enough of them. I know a lot of people that are taking care of other kids informally.

    It's an ugly situation all around. There are some kids that should be taken out of their homes, that aren't.

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  • Stands Alone
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    Should be able to get to this site, the one listed above does not work.
    Last edited by Stands Alone; 11-01-2011, 10:31 AM.

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  • Stands Alone
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    After reading all this I did a little research, found some interesting sites:





    familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white_papers-articles/children_chattel/#Thirteenth Amendment Applied To Child Welfare



    I was a parent of a "special needs" child who passed away in 1999. The site for family rights is informative and the Thirteenth Amendment is very interesting.
    Last edited by Stands Alone; 11-01-2011, 10:00 AM.

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  • comadre
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    Originally posted by subeeds View Post
    Like comadre said, it's not negative, it's the truth. Maybe a start would be to get the "special needs" label (I hate labels) clarified. You would think that with the government in the financial bind that it is in, they would be happy to save some money. By removing the mis-applied special needs label, that would be a good start. That's a label that is going to follow a kind their whole life-even if they can pull straight A's in school.
    Maybe we should inform the special needs community. Those parents are the most mobilized, stressed out and looking for someone to straighten up regarding special needs issues.That's a group that gets stuff done!

    Here is an interesting question.If all of the Native children in foster care are "special needs" why are they NOT receiving treatment? HELLO??????Where is the money that was set aside for their help actually going if it is not spent on therapeutic help? I mention this because I personally know at least a dozen special needs therapist that work in home with this population and every one of them say they have zero native children on their caseloads.Good Lord something is largely amiss!

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  • subeeds
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    Originally posted by pigheaded View Post
    Don't mean to get all negative nancy on ya, but the problem is, is that no one cares. The thinking is, if them indians could take care of their own, we wouldn't have to. The total great white hope syndrome, not saying you shouldn't post it, just saying this is the way it is.

    But thanks for your efforts and you heart.
    Like comadre said, it's not negative, it's the truth. Maybe a start would be to get the "special needs" label (I hate labels) clarified. You would think that with the government in the financial bind that it is in, they would be happy to save some money. By removing the mis-applied special needs label, that would be a good start. That's a label that is going to follow a kind their whole life-even if they can pull straight A's in school.

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  • AmigoKumeyaay
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    Originally posted by comadre View Post
    Unfortunately your post is not so much negative as it is reality. I have heard those ugly ideas and you are right in thinking that most do think they are "helping the kids" because you ndns can't do so for your own. I am not denying that exists. There is a lot of work that needs to be done from many angles to bust this ugly.
    We all just need to figure out what angle we belong in and what part we each play in feeding or starving these stereotypes right?.
    Mine I know has something to do with my big mouth.Lol.I just havn't figured out how to use it yet without offending folks.
    This needs to be discussed.

    The destruction of Tribal culture and societies brought on dysfunction as the aboriginal people were forced into "reservations" and westernization.

    I'm not saying that ALL natives had problems, just not all were going to fit into the mold of the U.S. Govt's' plan of assimilation.

    The natural foods were replaced with commodities high in grease and fat, AND Sugar. I've seen way too may rez folks with amputated feet & legs...

    The chaos of change replaced self-determination with (assisted) self-destruction.

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  • pigheaded
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    Originally posted by comadre View Post
    Unfortunately your post is not so much negative as it is reality. I have heard those ugly ideas and you are right in thinking that most do think they are "helping the kids" because you ndns can't do so for your own. I am not denying that exists. There is a lot of work that needs to be done from many angles to bust this ugly.
    We all just need to figure out what angle we belong in and what part we each play in feeding or starving these stereotypes right?.
    Mine I know has something to do with my big mouth.Lol.I just havn't figured out how to use it yet without offending folks.
    LOL. Offend away Cmom. LOL Glad to know I aint the only one with a big mouth.

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  • comadre
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    Originally posted by pigheaded View Post
    Don't mean to get all negative nancy on ya, but the problem is, is that no one cares. The thinking is, if them indians could take care of their own, we wouldn't have to. The total great white hope syndrome, not saying you shouldn't post it, just saying this is the way it is.

    But thanks for your efforts and you heart.
    Unfortunately your post is not so much negative as it is reality. I have heard those ugly ideas and you are right in thinking that most do think they are "helping the kids" because you ndns can't do so for your own. I am not denying that exists. There is a lot of work that needs to be done from many angles to bust this ugly.
    We all just need to figure out what angle we belong in and what part we each play in feeding or starving these stereotypes right?.
    Mine I know has something to do with my big mouth.Lol.I just havn't figured out how to use it yet without offending folks.

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  • pigheaded
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    Originally posted by comadre View Post
    That's a great idea subeads. Mind if I repost that pic myself? and I do love the idea of sending these informed articles out to every nook and cranny where others can finally see what is happening.
    Don't mean to get all negative nancy on ya, but the problem is, is that no one cares. The thinking is, if them indians could take care of their own, we wouldn't have to. The total great white hope syndrome, not saying you shouldn't post it, just saying this is the way it is.

    But thanks for your efforts and you heart.

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  • comadre
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    Originally posted by subeeds View Post
    A friend of mine just posted this on her FB page. Says it all-at least to me, especially the voiceless part.


    Edited to add: I just posted a link to the IT story on my FB page. Maybe we can get the word out that way. Social media seems to be working when it comes to bringing stories and injustice to people who otherwise wouldn't see it.
    That's a great idea subeads. Mind if I repost that pic myself? and I do love the idea of sending these informed articles out to every nook and cranny where others can finally see what is happening.

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